So the HPFP is part of emissions category on these trucks? Was not aware, if that is true, then Ford ESP warranties past 100k will exempt Emissions parts. Is that correct or am I not seeing the whole picture here. Does anyone know where a complete listing of Emissions parts are located that would be covered under a Ford ESP? I am with some of the others, since Steve had an issue and he is one that has a lot of experiece behind him, now makes me wonder? Reason for enquiring, at 99k and looking at the Ford ESP's for another 4 years. Hey if I need to start another thread on this, let me know...

 

From the warranty guide, 4th edition:

(4) Your vehicle’s direct injection diesel engine and certain engine components

are covered during the 6.0L/6.4L PowerStroke Diesel Engine

Coverage Period, which lasts for five years or 100,000 miles, whichever

occurs first. The following parts are covered during this extended coverage

period: the engine, cylinder block, heads and all internal parts, intake

and exhaust manifolds, timing gear, harmonic balancer, valve covers, oil

pan and pump, water pump, fuel system (excluding fuel lines, fuel tank

and frame mounted fuel conditioning module sometimes referred to as

the frame mounted pump/filter/water separator), high pressure lines, gaskets

and seals, glow plugs, turbocharger, two-stage turbocharger assembly

(6.4L), turbocharger actuator (6.4L), powertrain control module, engine

control module (6.4L), high pressure fuel injection pump assembly

(6.4L), electronic driver unit, injectors, injection pressure sensor, fuel rail


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pressure sensor (6.4L), high pressure oil regulator, exhaust back pressure

regulator and sensor, exhaust pressure sensor (6.4L), manifold pressure

sensor (6.4L), intake air temperature sensor (6.4L), crankshaft position

sensor (6.4L), camshaft position sensor, accelerator switch.


NOTE: Some components may also be covered by the Emissions Warranties.



For more information, see pages 17-32.

 

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../08frdwa3e.pdf

 

Emissions warranty:
List of Parts Covered for 5 Years or 100,000 Miles (whichever

occurs first) by Emissions Warranties for Diesel Engines



• Air Flow Sensor

• Air Induction System

• Catalytic Converter (including



Diesel Particulate Filter and

Diesel Oxidation Catalyst)


• Cold Start Enrichment System

• Electronic Engine Control Sensors



and Switches


• Electronic Engine Control Unit



(ECU)


• Emissions Label

• Exhaust Gas Recirculation



(EGR) System


• Exhaust Manifold

• Fuel Injection System

• Fuel Injector Supply Manifold

• Intake Manifold

• Intercooler Assembly - Engine



Charger


• Malfunction Indicator Lamp



(MIL)/On-Board Diagnostic

(OBD) System


• PCV System and Oil Filler Cap

• Supercharger Assembly

• Throttle Body Assembly (MFI)

 

What I don't have reference too is the extend warranty coverages since I have the Geico which is pretty much bumper to bumper.

So those with an extended warranty, refer to your book.

I would appear to me that the HPFP could be covered either way, with the emissions or diesel warranty.

 

Understood on the warrany to 100k. With a lot of us approaching or over the 100k, the options to be covered with the Ford ESP over 100k and the details of the ESP show that emissions are not covered with these plans other than premium care which, according to my dealer Ford MAY exempt the HPFP due to conditions and only for 2 years. Really hard for me to swallow that a diesel engine does not have the longevity today that I was raised in the past. To drive down the hiway and always wondering if the HPFP or the injectors or something is going to go "bazinga" is rather concerning. If you do not have some type of warranty, it could literally "break the bank" to get home.

 

Unfortunately I think the durability advantage has been gone for years, but more of that has to do with the longevity of gas engines than the shortened life of diesel engines. Sadly bearings, rods, rings, and valves aren't new technology. Up until recently those have been the only things that could fail and cost big dollars, but those have been figured out pretty well enough to be components that nobody worries about anymore. But these new expen$ive fuel systems just haven't been out for the ~130-ish years that most internal engine components have been, so there's a bit of an experience curve before they become as reliable.

 

If you don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for that Geico MBD Insurance? I'm still under my Ford Extended Warranty, but this looks like something to consider.

Dave

 

I had the P0088 Code show up last week.

I have a 2010 Ford F-350 King Ranch 6.4L 4x4 DRW.

The cruise control stopped working, the truck was limping on initial acceleration, couldn't get past 50 MPH, and a scanner is showing a code: P0088 - Fuel Rail Pressure Too High.

I've changed both fuel filters at least every 10,000, and it has only been roughly 6,000 since both were changed. I drain the sump every two weeks, and I've yet to see any water. The truck has 36,120 miles.

I took the truck into Ford and they did the re-flash. (The 12-7-7 update)

Does anyone know whether this is a fix, or if I should expect the HPFP to start spitting metal into the fuel system?

I'm still under my extended warranty, but my understanding is that only extends the warranty an additional 12,000 miles and one year. When I bought it, I was told it was a 7 / 70 warranty, extending the factory warranty 48 months and 4 years AFTER the factory warranty expired. $2,600 bucks. I sure got ripped off on that one.

If anyone has any suggestions on the reliability of the re-flash, or any other suggestions, it would be appreciated.

Dave

 

Gieco's warranty is only offered if I recall correctly within the first 12 months/12K miles on new purchased vehicles.

I pay somewhere around 70 bucks for a 6 month policy and it is bumper to bumper to 100K miles.

250 dollar deductible.

 

If you had the tsb applied all you can do is drive it and see if your issue goes away. If It comes back then you have a bad hpfp or something within the hpfp.

All you can do.

 

you are correct, I declined to get it ...kind of wish I didn't.

 

This thread makes me want to return to Geico for their MBI! Of course my HPFP is only a $250 part...

 

Sure saved me a few bucks.