Off road fuel?
Off road fuel?
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Are you talking about red dye diesel? its banned in some state and running with it brings heafty fines, although its cheeper most big trucks like Semis only get checked, as far as quality I don't think theres much diff, I could be alittle off so lets let the guys that know this answer . p.s I never run bio or red die in my 6.0 .
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Exactly. No difference in performance or chemical content otherwise.
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I've seen CHP dipping tanks here in California on pickup trucks. I'm guessing they were checking for evidence of off road fuel. Fuel door was open & the officer was pulling a long 'rod' out of the tank. This happened just outside the Tracy area which has a lot of agricultural. Surprised the hell out of me & my buddy when we were waved by (in my car). We're both diesel truck owners. We both did a double take & looked at each other to confirm we saw the same thing.
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Guess I'd never get stopped in my VW Passat TDI..... but I'd never take the chance. Odds are with me, I know. But I also know my luck.......
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Maybe Diesel Mom has a farm truck for work that isn't even registered and never leaves the property, wink-wink.
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We had a poster on this subject a while back say he drove a fuel truck and the on and off road fuel came from the same tank on his truck. The dye was added by a device on the truck when he filled the tanks at the service station.
Off road diesel can move slower at the service station or tanks on the farm and the storage tanks could be dirtier and the fuel could be older.
Off road diesel can move slower at the service station or tanks on the farm and the storage tanks could be dirtier and the fuel could be older.
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Most off-road fuel is dyed at the distribution plant. Off-road does not include the sales taxes present with consumer fuel, although it does incur about 1 cent per gallon to cover the dye.
Same fuel these days. Pre-2006 and for a brief period of Hurrican Katrina was a different story.
As for running on the public streets and highways? I didn't see or hear anything, wink wink nudge nudge
Josh
Same fuel these days. Pre-2006 and for a brief period of Hurrican Katrina was a different story.
As for running on the public streets and highways? I didn't see or hear anything, wink wink nudge nudge
Josh
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Here's a very complete discussion of the subject:
The Official Red Dye / Offroad Diesel FAQ - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
You will have to "google" to find out what the possible fine are in your area. It varies across the country (and continent). Most of them ain't cheap. (Sorry about the bow tie reference
)
The Official Red Dye / Offroad Diesel FAQ - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
You will have to "google" to find out what the possible fine are in your area. It varies across the country (and continent). Most of them ain't cheap. (Sorry about the bow tie reference
)
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Google for California. I found a paper dated 2009.
Fines for non-compliance, as listed in the Health and Safety Code, can be as
high as $10,000 per vehicle per day for particulate matter (PM) violations
and $500 per vehicle per day for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) violations. Therefore,
ARB staff encourages fleet owners to comply with the regulation and avoid costly
fines for non-compliance.
Fines for non-compliance, as listed in the Health and Safety Code, can be as
high as $10,000 per vehicle per day for particulate matter (PM) violations
and $500 per vehicle per day for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) violations. Therefore,
ARB staff encourages fleet owners to comply with the regulation and avoid costly
fines for non-compliance.
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From: Manteca,Ca
I had no Idea the fine went up that much, use to be around grand, we use red dye in Az on the farm for years , pumps and tractors even the old diesels, well your also aloud to carry a side arm on the hip too
Good ol gov . bad old Kalifornia
Good ol gov . bad old Kalifornia
