T-19 question
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Laughing Gas
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T-19 question
134 views over in transmissions and no replies. Maybe someone over hear knows the answer?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-question.html
According to Novak, Ford used 3 ratio variations in the '85 F series. What they don't tell is what the suffix is, other than for the 4.02:1 first gear version.
I've found this so far:
4.02,2.41,1.41,1.00 - T-19A
5.11,3.03,1.79,1.00
6.32,3.09,1.68,1.00
Anyone know which of the two remaining combinations are the T-19C, and what the other one is as well?
Is there a way to identify for sure which of the other two mine is, without removing it from the truck?
I'm looking for a Chelsea PTO for mine and they go by the suffix number. For instance, Chelsea tells me one I found is for the T-19A and T-19C.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-question.html
According to Novak, Ford used 3 ratio variations in the '85 F series. What they don't tell is what the suffix is, other than for the 4.02:1 first gear version.
I've found this so far:
4.02,2.41,1.41,1.00 - T-19A
5.11,3.03,1.79,1.00
6.32,3.09,1.68,1.00
Anyone know which of the two remaining combinations are the T-19C, and what the other one is as well?
Is there a way to identify for sure which of the other two mine is, without removing it from the truck?
I'm looking for a Chelsea PTO for mine and they go by the suffix number. For instance, Chelsea tells me one I found is for the T-19A and T-19C.
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I looked it up on car-part.com, and they also list 3 different t19's in 85. It doesn't list the suffix numbers, but it does list the applications, maybe it will help in your detective work.
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x2 (6.9L & 7.5L)
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x4, 6.9L
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x4, 7.5L
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x2 (6.9L & 7.5L)
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x4, 6.9L
M.T., (4 spd), Warner, T-19, 4x4, 7.5L
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Franklin 2 is right on the applications of the borg Warner T19 they only put them in 460 ;7.5 gas engines and 6.9 diesels The early 7.3 may have had a T19 in them.They all had a syncronized creeper gear meaning you could shift then into granny or creeper gear while moving
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Laughing Gas
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Yeah, Novak conversions site (quoted in the other thread) covers what they were using, the ones I listed. What I need to figure out is the suffix of the other two, and, if possible, how to tell what mine is without removing it.
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Laughing Gas
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Yeah. The other thing I thought about was the local emissions tester if they can get a reading of RPM and MPH when a vehicle is on the rollers and then I can use a calculator here Novak Conversions - Gearing & Gearing Math for Jeeps
Is the 1345 transfer case ratio 1:1 in high range?
Is the 1345 transfer case ratio 1:1 in high range?
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All transfer cases are 1 to 1 in high range. Now wait, someone is going to bring up some oddball transfer case that is not 1 to 1 in high, but all the ones Ford used where 1 to 1.
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Thanks. I figured they were, but couldn't find it documented and since I'm trying to figure out my 1st gear ratio didn't want to make any assumptions.
And yeah, some Land Rovers have 1.148:1 high range.
And yeah, some Land Rovers have 1.148:1 high range.
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Tom,
If you have the 460 4x4 you will have the 6.32:1 T-19.
2x and diesel are 5.11, and I'm pretty sure these are 'B'.
So you should be okay with the 'C' PTO.
What are you looking to do with it?
If you have the 460 4x4 you will have the 6.32:1 T-19.
2x and diesel are 5.11, and I'm pretty sure these are 'B'.
So you should be okay with the 'C' PTO.
What are you looking to do with it?
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I think the 5.11 low gear version, was the T19B too.
But AFAIK, the diesels were all T19A with a 4:1 low gear (& close ratios), because of the limited rpm range. Mine came from an '86 diesel.
How common were Landrovers in the U.S. Tom? For a long time they were everywhere over here. A lot of farmers, particularly in steeper areas, had Series 1,2 & 3 through the 50's-80's.
They're not as prolific now, but are still around, plus Defenders etc. My brother just sold two Series 3's, & a heap of spares a few weeks ago.
But AFAIK, the diesels were all T19A with a 4:1 low gear (& close ratios), because of the limited rpm range. Mine came from an '86 diesel.
How common were Landrovers in the U.S. Tom? For a long time they were everywhere over here. A lot of farmers, particularly in steeper areas, had Series 1,2 & 3 through the 50's-80's.
They're not as prolific now, but are still around, plus Defenders etc. My brother just sold two Series 3's, & a heap of spares a few weeks ago.
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I was planning on using it to drive a winch, but now Chelsea is saying the PTO doesn't have the torque for that. I need to find the winch requirements, but my have to go hydraulic.
Now, very common. When I bought my first in '74 or '75 they'd just quit importing them. They never imported large numbers. They weren't unseen, but rare enough I'd usually chase down ones I saw and talk to the owner. Assuming they stopped for the wacko flashing his lights and waving. LOL
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