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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:15 AM
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Alright well took half a day to finally be able to get my dads truck home. His truck is idling real rough, blowing out smoke blackish/blueish, and has a hard knocking sound? We did stop to put a little bit of diesel at a store and it started doing this shortly after......... Suggestions? Please and thanks you guys.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:29 AM
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I would start with draining the water separator and filters. I say this because you said that you
got fuel before this all started. A plugged up filter will do a lot of nasty things. It would help
if you knew the fuel pressure. Not do you have any gauges? That is going to tell you what
the next step will be.

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Old May 9, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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Well unless I can use my Livewire off my truck and hook it up to his we won't have any other gauges...... As for draining and changing filters we are actually going to pump out all the fuel in the tank and change the filters this morning. Then fill it up with fresh fuel and some additive (diesel kleen).

Oh something I forgot to mention he called me after he drove the truck for almost 100 miles with it acting like this. (Which is when I told him just to pull over and kill the truck)
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:02 AM
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Let him know that his situation is the reason that a fuel pressure gauge is so important! If it is poor fuel, then the primary filter may easily be plugged and causing low pressure at the injectors. Who knows how long the injectors can "endure" low fuel pressure.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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Bismic thanks I'll let him know. (Main reason I've got a fuel gauge for mine on the way) I also have the fuel regulator blue spring, think I ought to have him put it on his truck? It is still brand new and in package....
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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I have always felt that the gauge should be installed first and then the blue spring installed based on the need, but it is cheap enough to just put it in.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Alright I'll just keep it on standby for the time being then. Let's see what happens, on our way to pump fuel out and replace filters and drain water seperator.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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Well got the filters off and fuel pumped out.... Old primary filter was half black and secondary was completely black. We changed them 7000 miles ago and they were good. The fuel came out looking **** yellow..... fresh fuel was a darker yellow.... added 2 quarts of tranny fluid to the fuel and the truck is still doing the same thing it was.......
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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You have Fuel Knock

Its Going to hydrolock or blow a Headgasket or Burn a Hole in a Piston

Basicaly its dumping Fuel into the cylinder NOT GOOD


STOP Trying to Run it!!!your going to KILL IT!!!!
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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What needs to be fixed for that?
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Its Toasted 1 or more injectors

Pull the Glow plugs and Vent it

then you can Mist test or Bubble Test to narrow down what inject went out
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Smoke smell like Diesel Fuel????

and Still Knocks????
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Maybe you can Bubble test before you pull All Glow Plugs

If it fails the Bubble test and you Pull glow Plugs Stay OUT of the Engine Bay cause that Diesel fuel will shoot out of there Harder then Any Pressure washer you have used it comes out with Lethal Force
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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:O well if that's the case I'll just load her up on the car hauler and take her to the diesel shop. No need for dad and I to be messing with pressure that high outside of work. I appreciate all the info. She's going to get all new injectors at once this way. That way we don't have to go back in again in the near future. Any idea what could have caused this?
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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To be honest i didn't smell the smoke and she starts knocking once she got up to normal operating temps. And it also looks like someone put a large cam in it.
 
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