Engine wont start when hot
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Engine wont start when hot
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I have a 2006 F350 Diesel that wont start when hot (unless I use diesel approved started fluid). I believe I have an IPS problem but not sure. I am looking to get a programmer this week to tune and check the trouble code, any recommendations there? I also need to know where ,and how, to locate/remove the IPS. There are no additional problem, once the truck cranks it runs fine, all the gauges appear normal with the exception of the check engine light that came on a couple of weeks back. A shot of started fluid gets it right back up. Thanks, any help will be greatly appreciated. If I have another problem please let me know, I read somewhere that the fuel pressure may be to low to let it start. Thanks again.
I have a 2006 F350 Diesel that wont start when hot (unless I use diesel approved started fluid). I believe I have an IPS problem but not sure. I am looking to get a programmer this week to tune and check the trouble code, any recommendations there? I also need to know where ,and how, to locate/remove the IPS. There are no additional problem, once the truck cranks it runs fine, all the gauges appear normal with the exception of the check engine light that came on a couple of weeks back. A shot of started fluid gets it right back up. Thanks, any help will be greatly appreciated. If I have another problem please let me know, I read somewhere that the fuel pressure may be to low to let it start. Thanks again.
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Normaly HPO to low to start when Hot
Hang off on the tunner the truck will need to be Diagnosed STOCK Also may want to save your Money if having a shop do the work this Problem could easily hit 1-2K$$ repair bill unless you wrench it
Get the DTC read if I had to guess its P2290 But thats just a Guess
Most autoparts store Scan DTC Free so get the DTC and post it here
you need a Digital gauge
Hang off on the tunner the truck will need to be Diagnosed STOCK Also may want to save your Money if having a shop do the work this Problem could easily hit 1-2K$$ repair bill unless you wrench it
Get the DTC read if I had to guess its P2290 But thats just a Guess
Most autoparts store Scan DTC Free so get the DTC and post it here
you need a Digital gauge
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Im with Benny, being an 06 its probably the standpipes, dummy plugs and/or the STC fitting which are all known to cause hot no starts. And even though the starting fluid says it can be used on diesel engines I wouldn't use it on a 6.0L as the possible damage to the base engine would be quite expensive to fix. You need a set of gauges that read live data like scan gauge II or the smartphone app Dashboss for IOS devices as they are instrumental in diagnosing these trucks and you will recoup the cost on the first repair you are able to diagnose and repair yourself, even if you don't do the repair yourself it will help you make informed decisions. You will also be able to spot problems before they leave you sitting on the side of the road.
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Im with Benny, being an 06 its probably the standpipes, dummy plugs and/or the STC fitting which are all known to cause hot no starts. And even though the starting fluid says it can be used on diesel engines I wouldn't use it on a 6.0L as the possible damage to the base engine would be quite expensive to fix. You need a set of gauges that read live data like scan gauge II or the smartphone app Dashboss for IOS devices as they are instrumental in diagnosing these trucks and you will recoup the cost on the first repair you are able to diagnose and repair yourself, even if you don't do the repair yourself it will help you make informed decisions. You will also be able to spot problems before they leave you sitting on the side of the road.
Great Advise = SG2 is a great tool...
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A few tips I've found on an '07 F350:
If you have access to a scantool or SG2, monitor the ICP and IPR while cranking:
-If the ICP while cranking won't build much more than 40 PSI, it's more than likely your STC fitting on the HPOP
-If the ICP while cranking is able to build around 100-300 PSI and almost start at times you more than likely have to replace the Dummy Plugs and Standpipes.
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Great info guys. I will look into getting a scan guage 2 and go from there. I will do all the repairs myself, atleast I think I will. I've rebuilt gassers and transmissions before and this diesel doesnt look too bad, atleast the top end anyways. What are the standpipes and dummy plugs? Thanks for all the help.
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Great info guys. I will look into getting a scan guage 2 and go from there. I will do all the repairs myself, atleast I think I will. I've rebuilt gassers and transmissions before and this diesel doesnt look too bad, atleast the top end anyways. What are the standpipes and dummy plugs? Thanks for all the help.
Good luck to you!
On edit: you may have blown thru the other options for monitoring your truck: if you have an Iphone you'll want to check out the Dash Boss app, about the same price as a scanguage, but way so much nicer in my opinion. If you have a Droid phone you want to look at the Torque Pro app ($4.95) and an OBDII bluetooth adapter ($13-$25) that plugs into your ODBII port, well actually they ALL do...
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First turn key to ON and take the sensor values
then
Just Crank long enough for the SGII to Update and then write the numbers down
So you will give 2 numbers per each sensor
KOEO
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Crank
ICV 07E02216AD 0462451606AD 3010 004827100000 Injector Control Voltage (Volts)
then
Just Crank long enough for the SGII to Update and then write the numbers down
So you will give 2 numbers per each sensor
KOEO
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Crank
ICV 07E02216AD 0462451606AD 3010 004827100000 Injector Control Voltage (Volts)
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I will check those voltages. Looks like I will be going into the motor to clean up a botched attemp to fix something. I have several valve cover bolts missing and the cab frame nuts (where the cab sits on the rubber body mounts) appear to be missing. The turbo exhaust pipe fitting looks to be overtightened too. Ive had this truck less than a year and got it from a used dealer. The ICP is showing 600-1100 psi between idle and 2500 no load. Under load it goes up to 1500+ (if I caught that right). Does this mean that the HPOP is functioning acceptably? I only use this truck to move product once a week and once it cranks it runs fine. Ist ok to drive? Thanks for all the help.
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Given the issues with it, I wouldn't....
Tie up the loose ends, fix the existing issues, then drive the truck. You don't want it to leave you on the side of the road costing you a tow and a potentially more expensive repair.
Tie up the loose ends, fix the existing issues, then drive the truck. You don't want it to leave you on the side of the road costing you a tow and a potentially more expensive repair.
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