Blue spring purchase.?.?
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Blue spring purchase.?.?
I am going to get the blue spring update, my questions is... I have found a lot of places to buy from with different prices, Are all the blue spring updates OEM? Where has everyone had good experience dealing with? Who is the best?
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I bought mine from Riff Raff Diesel -- good price, but super fast shipping and service! (I think the price is even less than I paid 2 weeks ago...)
Riffraff Diesel: Ford Fuel Pressure Regulator Blue Spring Kit
Riffraff Diesel: Ford Fuel Pressure Regulator Blue Spring Kit
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Before you buy on line make sure you check how much shipping is. Some offer good price on item but have high shipping costs. Some times it is cheaper (by time you pay for item and shipping) to go to local dealership even if you do have to pay sales tax.
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If you have an IH dealer near to you that is a good place. You most likely
don't need the cover and it saves you some money. The kit comes with
some extra parts so don't be surprised to find extra parts. I think if you look
up the part numbers you should find the IH (Navistar) numbers. I forget who
posted that very handy list of numbers. It had both the Ford and Navistar numbers.
Sean
NOTE : Read this post for the numbers and be sure to give Bismic (Mark) reps
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10887479
don't need the cover and it saves you some money. The kit comes with
some extra parts so don't be surprised to find extra parts. I think if you look
up the part numbers you should find the IH (Navistar) numbers. I forget who
posted that very handy list of numbers. It had both the Ford and Navistar numbers.
Sean
NOTE : Read this post for the numbers and be sure to give Bismic (Mark) reps
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10887479
Last edited by Yahiko; Apr 24, 2013 at 05:14 AM. Reason: Note
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Here's the p/n's:
Blue Spring
Upgraded fuel pressure regulator kit (with cover): Ford#3C3Z-9T517-AG IH #1843065C98
Fuel Pressure Regulator "Spring and Reseal Kit Only" (no cover, should be much cheaper, has gasket): Ford#6E7Z-9C165-B IH#1854267C94
Regulator cover gasket only: Ford#3C32-9C065-AA
All of them I've seen have been in Ford packaging but I haven't been to the International dealer.
Blue Spring
Upgraded fuel pressure regulator kit (with cover): Ford#3C3Z-9T517-AG IH #1843065C98
Fuel Pressure Regulator "Spring and Reseal Kit Only" (no cover, should be much cheaper, has gasket): Ford#6E7Z-9C165-B IH#1854267C94
Regulator cover gasket only: Ford#3C32-9C065-AA
All of them I've seen have been in Ford packaging but I haven't been to the International dealer.
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Last option I found after I did mine was Xtreme Diesel who has just the spring and the cover o-ring for $29.x. They have a discount code you can use "DIESEL10" for 10% off, but they also charge a $2 handling fee (about a wash w/ the discount) on every order and you'd have to buy something else to get over their $50 minimum for free shipping.
The way I did mine was w/o breaking the fuel line connection, there's an o-ring there that comes in the other kits you'd want to replace, but it's not in this kit from Xtreme. I loosened the fuel line hold down clamp and there was plenty of room to do the spring w/o feeling like you're gonna' break something. It was, however, a royal pain to get to that clamp's single bolt...
The way I did mine was w/o breaking the fuel line connection, there's an o-ring there that comes in the other kits you'd want to replace, but it's not in this kit from Xtreme. I loosened the fuel line hold down clamp and there was plenty of room to do the spring w/o feeling like you're gonna' break something. It was, however, a royal pain to get to that clamp's single bolt...
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I went to International today for the blue spring kit ,( no dice) they couldent even order it the guy looked up the numbers IH and ford, the price of living in Kalifornya and only a few places carry Rev-x
now I'm pissed.car quest didnt have it auto zone.one place that did have it was ( u gona like this diesel Dan Left coast lol 1hr 30min away) looks like Iwill be calling riffraff
now I'm pissed.car quest didnt have it auto zone.one place that did have it was ( u gona like this diesel Dan Left coast lol 1hr 30min away) looks like Iwill be calling riffraff
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I went to International today for the blue spring kit ,( no dice) they couldent even order it the guy looked up the numbers IH and ford, the price of living in Kalifornya and only a few places carry Rev-x now I'm pissed.car quest didnt have it auto zone.one place that did have it was ( u gona like this diesel Dan Left coast lol 1hr 30min away) looks like Iwill be calling riffraff
now I'm pissed.car quest didnt have it auto zone.one place that did have it was ( u gona like this diesel Dan Left coast lol 1hr 30min away) looks like Iwill be calling riffraffBut what I wasn't tracking was it sounded like it's not a part that's approved for sale in CA?!
Got all my parts on the way and sending a note to LC today
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Did mine a couple days ago. Only used the spring, cup, cover gasket, and I think just one o-ring in the kit. A t-27 socket was a little hard to find. Glad I didn't get the kit with the cover. Was a little worried about stripping/breaking the casting that the t27 screws/bolts screw into. An old trick I learned from working on antique tractors, heat the bolt/screw as hot as you can get it and let it cool before even trying to wrench on it. Sometimes I've even had to weld a nut on top of a bolt that'd been so rusted into place you'd never guess it would come off and it does just great. I used a hand torch. Diesel is not flammable when not vaporized and compressed, so I wasn't real worried, just stayed away from other plastic pieces. Worked like a charm. Swapped out the plastic cap with an aluminum one, bled off the air through the hex screw on top. Fired right up and runs great. Probably took two hours total since I'd not taken any of those pieces loose nor had zip ties on the fuel lines yet.
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Watch out, there is an o-ring that sits in front of the cup. This o-ring slowly wastes away, and when it's time to rebuild, you may not realize that a new o-ring belongs in that position.
The diagram from Ford isn't terribly helpful either, since it doesn't address the fact that there are two different models of fuel regulator/filter bowl out in the wild.
Safest thing to do is get the adapter and a pressure gauge and check your fuel pressure yourself after installing the blue spring kit. My fuel pressure dropped to 40 when I omitted that inner o-ring on my first installation attempt.
The diagram from Ford isn't terribly helpful either, since it doesn't address the fact that there are two different models of fuel regulator/filter bowl out in the wild.
Safest thing to do is get the adapter and a pressure gauge and check your fuel pressure yourself after installing the blue spring kit. My fuel pressure dropped to 40 when I omitted that inner o-ring on my first installation attempt.
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The brass piece? On mine it is more of a thin gasket and seemed to be glued in place on the cup. I didn't try to remove it. Was your kit in a Ford package?
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I was trying to figure out what he was referring to as well -- mine was just like yours. Maybe early on they used o-rings there? Otherwise that's the three things I used from the kit: brass valve w/fiber gasket, spring and the cover o-ring (tho I think the old one would have sealed).
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The older model filter bowls use the black plastic donut as a removable seat for the brass piece. The order of objects inserted into the regulator is: black o-ring, black plastic donut, thin black o-ring, brass piece, blue spring, cover.
The newer model filter bowls omit the black plastic donut and its o-ring... but they are still included in the blue spring kits.
My point was, if you have the older model of filter bowl, the one that uses the black olastic donut, then beware that the original o-ring (the one that sits between the black plastic donut and the filter bowl) can be completely wasted away... but be sure to replace it when you rebuild.
The newer model filter bowls omit the black plastic donut and its o-ring... but they are still included in the blue spring kits.
My point was, if you have the older model of filter bowl, the one that uses the black olastic donut, then beware that the original o-ring (the one that sits between the black plastic donut and the filter bowl) can be completely wasted away... but be sure to replace it when you rebuild.
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