10 speed transmission
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10 speed transmission
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Ford and GM team up on 9-speed transmission - Apr. 15, 2013
I find it interesting that Ford and GM are teaming up on the design process. It says the 10 speed will be for large rear wheel drive SUV and trucks. I wonder if that includes the HD pickup segment? If so, then I wonder if GM is thinking of taking the Allison badge off their trucks.
I think it's wise to focus on the development of transmissions. A quality transmission behind nearly any reasonable engine is likely to be more capable than a quality engine coupled with a mediocre transmission. I wonder how powerful and economical a 5.0 EcoBoost with a 10 speed will be...
Ford and GM team up on 9-speed transmission - Apr. 15, 2013
I find it interesting that Ford and GM are teaming up on the design process. It says the 10 speed will be for large rear wheel drive SUV and trucks. I wonder if that includes the HD pickup segment? If so, then I wonder if GM is thinking of taking the Allison badge off their trucks.
I think it's wise to focus on the development of transmissions. A quality transmission behind nearly any reasonable engine is likely to be more capable than a quality engine coupled with a mediocre transmission. I wonder how powerful and economical a 5.0 EcoBoost with a 10 speed will be...
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I remember an old man telling me many years ago that he could move the Empire State Building with a lawn mower if he had enough gears. While I seriously doubt that, I understood his point. Ever since then I've wondered why transmissions were mainly 3 & 4 gear setups. I guess it's finally become cheaper to develop new transmissions than engines.
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The more gears that the transmission has the less RPM changed
the engine will have to make so it can stay is the sweet spot.
Things like gat turbine engines run better if you don't change
the RPM much. If you can build an engine for a narrow RPM
range you should be able to get more MPG out of it.
At least that is my thinking on this. It will be something new
to play with after they hit the road.
Sean
the engine will have to make so it can stay is the sweet spot.
Things like gat turbine engines run better if you don't change
the RPM much. If you can build an engine for a narrow RPM
range you should be able to get more MPG out of it.
At least that is my thinking on this. It will be something new
to play with after they hit the road.
Sean
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So long as they program it to skip shifts correctly and include some kind of OD/gear lockout AND manual control, I'm 100% for more options.
Maybe a super-tall OD and 1600RPMS going 75mph unloaded? That's be awesome.
Maybe a super-tall OD and 1600RPMS going 75mph unloaded? That's be awesome.
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As long as it doesn't constanly shift IMO, that would drive me nuts. A nice tall OD would be great is the truck could pull it all the time, but in hilly areas, it wont unless its a diesel. I still wish i could get a true manual trans in a new superduty.
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With that many gears it would have to be an autoshift type transmission. Otherwise that is a lot of heat to dissipate during the shifts.
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The control systems will be separate. Ford will design the Ford control system. As was mentioned this is not a first, Ford and Gm jointly designed two transmissions already.
Mainly it is the hard parts inside the trans that are commonized. The cases are the same except for mounting points and the bellhousings.
Mainly it is the hard parts inside the trans that are commonized. The cases are the same except for mounting points and the bellhousings.
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