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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Piston install questions

I got 4 pistons ringed and installed today... Only broke a single ring... Kudos to Summit for comp'ing me a replacement; so far, besides machining, I have gotten everything from them for this project.

So I was looking at these and it seems the angle of the valve reliefs is slanted. I compared to the head and the orientation seems correct. I also have the notches forward. Anyways I was just wondering if this all seems right.

 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 12:29 AM
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I think that the reason the valve reliefs look slanted is because there are two large and two small and they are diagonally opposite. If they were all the same size, then the slant would disappear.

The notches should face towards the front of the engine. What's the deck clearance? You can check with feeler gauges.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 12:34 AM
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I havent checked yet. Just been putting it all together a little at a time as I find time.
 
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Did you get the rods oriented correctly with the crank ? Numbered side facing out ?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Are these the numbers you are referring to?





Cause I meticulously looked on 3 & 4 and there is nothing stamped on either side.





I did request the machinist dummy proof this by writing the cylinder number on each piston.



So as long as these are cylinders 1 - 4 I am reasonably confident I have everything as it should be.

 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Yea those are the numbers. If you'll notice, the bearing shells are offset slightly to one side in the rod, so that the bearing is spaced away from the journal fillet (the curve in the transition from the journal to the side of the counterweight) The bearings should be spaced towards each other, or towards the center of the journal when they're paired together.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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So the idea is to keep the caps from rubbing on the crank?

I am confident this is correct but cant be too careful.
 
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No, this is to keep the bearing shell spaced away from the curved transition from the journal to the counterweight. The only thing keeping the side of the rods away from each other and the counterweight is the film of oil coating them.
 
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I will take a closer look to make sure the bearings are positioned towards the center. Doesnt hurt to double check. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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Did you install the rings as per the instructions in the ring packaging ?
 
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In the correct order... Yes. Oil, iron, & moly. At least i think thats the order of the compression ring. It was labelled first second & third.

I will position the gaps before Ii stick it in the cylinder.

 
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Not only that, there's usually a dot on one side of the compression rings to label which side is "UP" on the piston.
 
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I checkend a rechecked... No dot. The packaging advised of this.
 
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Yea, I went and looked at an extra set I have. Sometimes you have to go by how the chamfer on the backside of the ring faces. I noticed the 2nd ring had a chamfer or notch there.
 
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I will double check. Saw a chamfer but thought it was on top & bottom of the inside of the ring.
 
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