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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Whining rear end

Changed the oil in my rear dif a couple weeks ago. Used a red synthetic we put in the big trucks at work. Just got back from a 500 mile trip and it's talking.
I just went to town (about 20 miles) and the chunk is hot to the touch, not smoking but to hot to hold your hand against.

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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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It is a trac-lok diff also, I did not add the ford additive when I did changed the pinion seal and oil.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Did you change the pinion seal the same time as the oil? Thats what it sounds like at least.
When you changed the seal, what did you do when tightening the nut back up? I'm thinking the pinion preload might be screwed up?

Also what are the specs on the "red synthetic"? Its possible it didn't need the ford additive for limited slip, but that by itself would only cause noise when turning and wear the clutches out faster. However, if its not the right thickness, maybe that can cause the heat.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Well I actually don't know the specs (fool) but we use it in the diffs in the Peterbuilts at work. So I figured it would be fine and the mechanic did also.
The preload is a descent suggestion... Bc I don't know what that is. And yes I did do all that at once. I didn't add the additive as a "test" to see what it would do. It sill slips like it is suppose to and when I turn the tires with it off the ground both turn together.

So what do I need to do with the preload?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Oh and this was done just bc I felt it was needed (probably shouldn't have) I packed the pinion with bearing grease.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Ok pretty sure the grease and ignorance are the issue. So I'm pulling it back out, cleaning the grease off, and then finding out what the preload is... Do I need to get a new crush collar?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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The bit of grease shouldn't be an issue. And honestly, I'm not sure the oil would either. Look on the container it came out of, it HAS to be on there, or at least the manufacturer's name and some kind of info you can look up.

I appears you didn't tighten it properly. Off the top of my head, I don't know the proper procedure. I know that other people have successfully swapped seals by marking the nut and pinion shaft, then counting turns while unscrewing the nut. Then putting it back on the same number of turns. I think thats what I did when I replaced mine. I hope you didn't wreck the pinion bearings, and/or the ring and pinion.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Going to throw my lot in with the "too much preload" crowd.
 
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I think I may have put too torque into it also. I will get specs on oil to make sure and I did find the torque specs but I'm getting a new nut tomorrow bc this one is damaged a little. I also hope the pinion/ring are ok.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 04:15 AM
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Update;
Too much preload was the issue. Torqued the pinion nut and checked resistance. So far it seems I didn't do any permant damage, fingers still crossed. Either way I suppose I learned a few things.
Thanks for the help and education.
 
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