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Old 04-08-2013, 08:59 PM
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F-550 and F-450 hit head on

i heard about this story this morning but not the details..had to be on hell of a crash. thoughts and prayers to the families and friends of the victims.

Head-on Crash Kills Fairbanks Man and Palmer Man on Parks Highway - ktuu.com

ANCHORAGE, Alaska—
A two vehicle head-on crash Sunday afternoon took the lives of a Palmer man and a Fairbanks man on the Parks Highway, according to Alaska State Troopers.

57-year-old Roy K. Ponder, of Fairbanks, and 57-year-old David A. Kincaid, of Palmer, were killed when their vehicles crashed near mile 186.6 on the Parks Highway shortly before 4 p.m. Sunday.

Troopers said Ponder was driving a Ford F450 truck with a trailer in tow with snowmachines heading northbound and Kincaid heading southbound in a Ford 550 truck with a trailer hauling a Ford 150.

Both drivers were declared dead at the scene by emergency responders that came from Cantwell and Trapper Creek.

Family members riding in both vehicles suffered non-life threatening injuries.

Kincaid’s daughter 24-year-old Molly M. Kincaid was taken to a hospital in Wasilla by a Trapper Creek ambulance.

Ponder’s wife 55-year-old Teresa A. Ponder was taken to a hospital in Fairbanks by a Cantwell ambulance.

Troopers said “impairment is not believed to be a factor,” in a dispatch during the initial investigation.

Troopers closed the Parks highway near the crash for several hours and reopened one lane around 8 p.m. Sunday.
 
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Sad story... here is another link with pics.

2 dead in head-on collision on Parks Hwy. | Mat-Su | ADN.com



 
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extremely sad...... but look at how bad the front ends crumbled
 
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They're supposed to crumple. That's why they're called crumple zones. The idea is to absorb and disperse as much energy as possible throughout the vehicle, reducing the forces transmitted to the passengers. This only works up to a point, though. Beyond that point it doesn't really matter much, as the forces are so extreme that if you make it out you're just lucky. It's possible that a very solidly mounted rigid structure like a Ranch Hand or similar bumper (not diamond plate or c-channel but instead pipe, round tubing, or square tubing) may have made the wreck worse for one party and less for another, but at those speeds it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome and could even make it worse in some cases.
 
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They're supposed to crumple. That's why they're called crumple zones. The idea is to absorb and disperse as much energy as possible throughout the vehicle, reducing the forces transmitted to the passengers.


Spot on. It's amazing to me how many folks measure a trucks toughness by how little damage it sustains during an accident. To me it's a measure of how poorly designed it probably is.

I love my truck like nobodies bizness, more than any vehicle I've ever owned, but in an accident that sucker could explode into a cloud of confetti as long as it means I get to go home and see my wife and kids.
 
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I've told this story before, but my friend Gary had a 2001 F-250 Power Stroke. He was involved in a high speed head on collision just west of Portland OR., on the Sunset Highway (US 26). The driver of the other vehicle (drunk) got on the highway the wrong way. He was killed on impact. The force of the impact moved the engine of the F-250 to just below the cab, but Gary walked away from the wreck. I was very impressed with the truck's ability to absorb and deflect the impact forces away from the passenger compartment, but as was stated earlier, you can only absorb and deflect a limited amount of kinetic energy.
 
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The passenger compartment is designed to be the strongest to protect you but yes the human body can only withstand so much. Two identical accidents can have very different outcomes. Thoughts and prayers to their families. Ray
 
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Prayers to the families of such a terrible accident.
Passengers in both vehicles had "non-life threatening injuries" has me wondering about why 'only' the drivers died - not wearing seat belts? steering wheel mounted air bag? steering column or pedals? hopefully some data can come from this.
Also consider both trucks towing a trailer which essentially continued to RAM the front-ends together during the impact.
 
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Originally Posted by SuperDutyScaler
extremely sad...... but look at how bad the front ends crumbled
yeah? and if that was a car it would have been gone
 
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
Prayers to the families of such a terrible accident.
Passengers in both vehicles had "non-life threatening injuries" has me wondering about why 'only' the drivers died - not wearing seat belts? steering wheel mounted air bag? steering column or pedals? hopefully some data can come from this.
Also consider both trucks towing a trailer which essentially continued to RAM the front-ends together during the impact.
as far as i know both drivers were wearing seat belts. if you look at the pictures you can pretty much see why they died.. the two trucks hit basically headlight to headlight (more or less) and just pushed into the cab causing horrific damage.
 
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Very sad, prayers to both families.
 
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Originally Posted by tgreening
Spot on. It's amazing to me how many folks measure a trucks toughness by how little damage it sustains during an accident. To me it's a measure of how poorly designed it probably is.

I love my truck like nobodies bizness, more than any vehicle I've ever owned, but in an accident that sucker could explode into a cloud of confetti as long as it means I get to go home and see my wife and kids.
X2 on this. The more the vehicle absorbes the impact and the less it transfers to me and others in mine and also the occupants of the other vehicle the better.
 
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