Engine Wiring Harness
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Engine Wiring Harness
I have a question regarding a replacement harness for my excursion
I am in the middle of going thru it(its out of the vehicle) and have found multiple broken tabs, chaffing spots, etc. and am only 1/3 of the way thru it so i have decided to just replace it.
I spoke with tousley this morning and they say there are 2 variations for my vin#. The guy didnt know which one and said there is a different guy who would be in on monday and could probably answer which one. I don't like probably so i am asking here.
Is there another way to figure this out by using something other than a vin# such as an engine serial # or id tag? And would the number on the ficm be relevant?
The harness I am after goes from the middle port on the pcm all the way to the ckp.<---- (this was a biotch to get out, btw)
My engine build date is 08/04. any help is appreciated
I am in the middle of going thru it(its out of the vehicle) and have found multiple broken tabs, chaffing spots, etc. and am only 1/3 of the way thru it so i have decided to just replace it.
I spoke with tousley this morning and they say there are 2 variations for my vin#. The guy didnt know which one and said there is a different guy who would be in on monday and could probably answer which one. I don't like probably so i am asking here.
Is there another way to figure this out by using something other than a vin# such as an engine serial # or id tag? And would the number on the ficm be relevant?
The harness I am after goes from the middle port on the pcm all the way to the ckp.<---- (this was a biotch to get out, btw)
My engine build date is 08/04. any help is appreciated
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Another way to determine the correct engine harness part number from Ford is to post the Navistar ID tag number here. This will be the number on the tag of the harness itself, if you follow the harness from the middle PCM connector up toward the engine.
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An engine harness has already been replaced on this truck back in January 31, 2007 @ 46334 miles according to the warranty claim detail. The part number for the engine harness they used is 4C3Z-12B637-CA if it helps.
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Originally Posted by Warranty Claim Detail for 1FMSU45P05EA49666
Claim Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Document Number</th><td>174337A</td></tr><tr><th>Repair Date</th><td>31-JAN-2007</td></tr><tr><th>Distance</th><td>46334</td></tr><tr><th>Time In Service</th><td>29</td></tr></tbody></table>
Vehicle Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Model Year</th><td>2005</td></tr><tr><th>Market Derived Code</th><td>F - FORD</td></tr><tr><th>Body/Cab Type</th><td>T/WD-4 DOOR WAGON</td></tr><tr><th>Version/Series</th><td>T/BD-250 SERIES</td></tr><tr><th>Drive Type</th><td>T/E-4 WHL L/H PART TIME DRIVE</td></tr><tr><th>Vehicle Line</th><td>T/L1-EXCURSION [00-05]</td></tr><tr><th>Warranty Start Date</th><td>20-SEP-2004</td></tr><tr><th>Production Date</th><td>31-AUG-2004</td></tr><tr><th>VIN</th><td>1FMSU45P05EA49666</td></tr></tbody></table>
Dealer Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Dealer Name</th><td>SUPERSTITION FORD, INC.</td></tr><tr><th>Dealer Code</th><td>03789-*</td></tr><tr><th>Address</th><td>3400 S. TOMAHAWK ROAD</td></tr><tr><th>City</th><td>APACHE JUNCTION</td></tr><tr><th>State</th><td>AZ</td></tr><tr><th>Zip Code</th><td>85219</td></tr><tr><th>Country</th><td>USA</td></tr><tr><th>RegionCode</th><td>NA</td></tr><tr><th>Phone</th><td></td></tr></tbody></table>
Expense Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Customer Paid Amount</th><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr><th>Deductible Amount</th><td>$100.00</td></tr><tr><th>Dealer Paid Amount</th><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr><th>Labor Cost</th><td>$549.59</td></tr><tr><th>Misc. Expense Amount</th><td>$192.50</td></tr><tr><th>Material Cost</th><td>$276.84</td></tr><tr><th>Total Cost Gross</th><td>$1,018.93</td></tr></tbody></table>
Comments
<table><tbody><tr><th>Customer Concern Code</th><td>D02-ENGINE WOULD NOT START</td></tr><tr><th>Condition Code</th><td>42-DOES NOT OPERATE PROPERLY</td></tr><tr><th>Technician Comment</th><td>46367 3390 12B637 42 PRT NO.5227 VERIFED ENGINE CRANK NO START.PERFORMED HARD ST ART NO START DIAG.KOEO TEST P2614 P2617.KOEO IN JECTOR ELECTRICAL SELF TEST.SCAN TOOL DATA LIST MONITOR.TRY TO ENGINE STARTED.CHECKED OASIS COD ES NOT PROBLEM.PERFOMED INSPECTION FOR WIRE CHA FFING NONE FOUND.CALLED BOB BOWMEN AT INTERNASA NAL ENGINE GROUP.THAT CAM SENSOR WHERE BURNT OU T</td></tr><tr><th>Customer Comment</th><td>CUSTOMER STATES VEHICLE WILL NOT START. SEE TED</td></tr></tbody></table>
Labor Details
<table class="grid"><tbody><tr><th>Labor Op Code</th><th>Labor Op Description</th><th>Cost</th></tr><tr><td>6005E</td><td>HARD START / NO START DIAGNOSTICS - 7.3L DI TURBO DIAGNOSIS</td><td>$50.73</td></tr><tr><td>6005E2</td><td>KEY ON ENGINE OFF - KOEO CHECK (6-7) TEST</td><td>$8.46</td></tr><tr><td>6005E4</td><td>NGS TESTER - DATA LIST MONITORING (9) TEST</td><td>$8.46</td></tr><tr><td>6005E45</td><td></td><td>$25.37</td></tr><tr><td>VERIFY60</td><td></td><td>$50.73</td></tr><tr><td>19700A</td><td>PRESSURIZE, LEAK TEST, DISCHARGE, EVACUATE AND CH DIAGNOSIS</td><td>$67.64</td></tr><tr><td>MT12B637</td><td></td><td>$338.20</td></tr></tbody></table>
Parts Details
<table class="grid"><tbody><tr><th>Casual Flag</th><th>Prefix</th><th>Base</th><th>Suffix</th><th>Part Description</th><th>CPSC</th><th>Part
Quantity</th><th>Extended
Amount</th></tr><tr><td>Y</td><td>4C3Z</td><td>12B637</td><td>CA</td><td>WIRING ENG CNTRL SNS</td><td>030008</td><td>1</td><td>$276.84</td></tr></tbody></table>
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<table><tbody><tr><th>Document Number</th><td>174337A</td></tr><tr><th>Repair Date</th><td>31-JAN-2007</td></tr><tr><th>Distance</th><td>46334</td></tr><tr><th>Time In Service</th><td>29</td></tr></tbody></table>
Vehicle Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Model Year</th><td>2005</td></tr><tr><th>Market Derived Code</th><td>F - FORD</td></tr><tr><th>Body/Cab Type</th><td>T/WD-4 DOOR WAGON</td></tr><tr><th>Version/Series</th><td>T/BD-250 SERIES</td></tr><tr><th>Drive Type</th><td>T/E-4 WHL L/H PART TIME DRIVE</td></tr><tr><th>Vehicle Line</th><td>T/L1-EXCURSION [00-05]</td></tr><tr><th>Warranty Start Date</th><td>20-SEP-2004</td></tr><tr><th>Production Date</th><td>31-AUG-2004</td></tr><tr><th>VIN</th><td>1FMSU45P05EA49666</td></tr></tbody></table>
Dealer Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Dealer Name</th><td>SUPERSTITION FORD, INC.</td></tr><tr><th>Dealer Code</th><td>03789-*</td></tr><tr><th>Address</th><td>3400 S. TOMAHAWK ROAD</td></tr><tr><th>City</th><td>APACHE JUNCTION</td></tr><tr><th>State</th><td>AZ</td></tr><tr><th>Zip Code</th><td>85219</td></tr><tr><th>Country</th><td>USA</td></tr><tr><th>RegionCode</th><td>NA</td></tr><tr><th>Phone</th><td></td></tr></tbody></table>
Expense Information
<table><tbody><tr><th>Customer Paid Amount</th><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr><th>Deductible Amount</th><td>$100.00</td></tr><tr><th>Dealer Paid Amount</th><td>$0.00</td></tr><tr><th>Labor Cost</th><td>$549.59</td></tr><tr><th>Misc. Expense Amount</th><td>$192.50</td></tr><tr><th>Material Cost</th><td>$276.84</td></tr><tr><th>Total Cost Gross</th><td>$1,018.93</td></tr></tbody></table>
Comments
<table><tbody><tr><th>Customer Concern Code</th><td>D02-ENGINE WOULD NOT START</td></tr><tr><th>Condition Code</th><td>42-DOES NOT OPERATE PROPERLY</td></tr><tr><th>Technician Comment</th><td>46367 3390 12B637 42 PRT NO.5227 VERIFED ENGINE CRANK NO START.PERFORMED HARD ST ART NO START DIAG.KOEO TEST P2614 P2617.KOEO IN JECTOR ELECTRICAL SELF TEST.SCAN TOOL DATA LIST MONITOR.TRY TO ENGINE STARTED.CHECKED OASIS COD ES NOT PROBLEM.PERFOMED INSPECTION FOR WIRE CHA FFING NONE FOUND.CALLED BOB BOWMEN AT INTERNASA NAL ENGINE GROUP.THAT CAM SENSOR WHERE BURNT OU T</td></tr><tr><th>Customer Comment</th><td>CUSTOMER STATES VEHICLE WILL NOT START. SEE TED</td></tr></tbody></table>
Labor Details
<table class="grid"><tbody><tr><th>Labor Op Code</th><th>Labor Op Description</th><th>Cost</th></tr><tr><td>6005E</td><td>HARD START / NO START DIAGNOSTICS - 7.3L DI TURBO DIAGNOSIS</td><td>$50.73</td></tr><tr><td>6005E2</td><td>KEY ON ENGINE OFF - KOEO CHECK (6-7) TEST</td><td>$8.46</td></tr><tr><td>6005E4</td><td>NGS TESTER - DATA LIST MONITORING (9) TEST</td><td>$8.46</td></tr><tr><td>6005E45</td><td></td><td>$25.37</td></tr><tr><td>VERIFY60</td><td></td><td>$50.73</td></tr><tr><td>19700A</td><td>PRESSURIZE, LEAK TEST, DISCHARGE, EVACUATE AND CH DIAGNOSIS</td><td>$67.64</td></tr><tr><td>MT12B637</td><td></td><td>$338.20</td></tr></tbody></table>
Parts Details
<table class="grid"><tbody><tr><th>Casual Flag</th><th>Prefix</th><th>Base</th><th>Suffix</th><th>Part Description</th><th>CPSC</th><th>Part
Quantity</th><th>Extended
Amount</th></tr><tr><td>Y</td><td>4C3Z</td><td>12B637</td><td>CA</td><td>WIRING ENG CNTRL SNS</td><td>030008</td><td>1</td><td>$276.84</td></tr></tbody></table>
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i must have missed that wiring harness or misread the oasis. i appreciate the help Mike. in any event, from what i have seen the tech that put in the new harness had no clue about how to properly support wiring which would explain why i have so much chaffing in areas where i should not.
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