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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Differential Oil Temp ?

Anyone happen to know what the temp of the oil in the differential should NOT exceed? Thinking of installing a new cover with a temp probe fitting in it. Had engine oil temp gauge before I bought my scan gauge and want to hook up the probe to the differential..... pull a 5th wheel and wanna watch it...just because I can.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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That would be nice to know in the summer.

Guess it's time to find the high temp values of the gear oil.

Quick search, and I didn't find much on temps.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Pretty much don't want to exceed the oil capacity for heat which is 240 degrees, the synthetics are probably ok to 250 used in these differentials. Heavy trucks have gauges on both or all three pumpkins and they watch em cause a bearing set going south will show in the temps on the big trucks. I doubt even pulling at max GCWR you would see a lot over 150 even at high summer temps, maybe 190. I would be interested in seeing your temps, what you run empty, pulling with what weights and ambient air temps. It's probably a lot related to the power you are putting through it, and the load, pulling lots of hills over an extended time, perhaps you will see it going up, but the pyro will be telling you first you have to back out of it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
I doubt even pulling at max GCWR you would see a lot over 150 even at high summer temps, maybe 190.
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?

When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?

When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
YIKES!!! I think we're overdue for the updated rear cover and new fluid if that's the case -- we don't run at max CGVWR, but by the time we add in the pushing-a-brick-thru-the-wind aerodynamics of a slide in camper and that we do long pulls up grades, I bet the pumpkin is toasty...

Plus the updated cover just looks cool
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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I guess I'll be needing to quickly jump out and take a temp reading with the temp gun some day.

The semi's I have driven in the past ran temps of 180-210, depending on many different things. Had one rear end once reach 230, while the front one was running lower. Just not sure what that temp was. That was running North bound in the summer on I-17 towards Flagstaff. Loaded with 450 head of sheep.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?

When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
How long was it under those conditions though?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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A half hour at a time, usually. That's running in a wind tunnel. I could get the same temps on a road that we often tested on, too. That was Arizona 68, heading up towards Union Gap from Bullhead City, AZ. It was about 12 miles at an average of 8% grade. It usually was over 110°F in Bullhead City.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Would turning under heavy loads cause more
heat vs. Straight vs up a straight hill?
wonder which causes more friction
just adding power or the diff slipping in a turn?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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It depends on what type of diff. An open diff will use the spider gears to allow the two sides to turn at different speeds. That will make a very, very small amount of additional heat. A limited slip will slip a clutch and will produce more heat.
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
A half hour at a time, usually. That's running in a wind tunnel. I could get the same temps on a road that we often tested on, too. That was Arizona 68, heading up towards Union Gap from Bullhead City, AZ. It was about 12 miles at an average of 8% grade. It usually was over 110°F in Bullhead City.
Gotcha, just wanted to make sure it was real world conditions. It always amazes me that these trucks can withstand that kind of driving. I get nervous holding WOT for a 0-60 run, let alone for 30 minutes straight.
 
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OK...NOW - can anyone give me the answer to my question - pretty please?
 
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I get nervous holding WOT for a 0-60 run, let alone for 30 minutes straight.
Climbing I-70 west of Denver towards the Eisenhower tunnel with an F-550 6.0L at 30,000 pounds actual weight I've had my right foot planted on the floor for longer than that. If I remember right it was about 45 minutes to climb that grade at about 37 MPH. Though it was a longer grade it didn't get as hot because it was always quite a bit cooler in Colorado than Arizona.

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OK...NOW - can anyone give me the answer to my question - pretty please?
I'd set the do not exceed at 320°F.
 
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I went with synthetics in both differentials, just because of the higher temp ratings.
 
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As I will if/when I get the new cover. Will prob get it before the camping season gets here. Looks like the only cover available that already has the bung for the probe is the Mag Hytech. $247.00 on Amazon

Thanks for the best guess Mark. 320* sounds good to me too!
 
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