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Anyone happen to know what the temp of the oil in the differential should NOT exceed? Thinking of installing a new cover with a temp probe fitting in it. Had engine oil temp gauge before I bought my scan gauge and want to hook up the probe to the differential..... pull a 5th wheel and wanna watch it...just because I can.
Pretty much don't want to exceed the oil capacity for heat which is 240 degrees, the synthetics are probably ok to 250 used in these differentials. Heavy trucks have gauges on both or all three pumpkins and they watch em cause a bearing set going south will show in the temps on the big trucks. I doubt even pulling at max GCWR you would see a lot over 150 even at high summer temps, maybe 190. I would be interested in seeing your temps, what you run empty, pulling with what weights and ambient air temps. It's probably a lot related to the power you are putting through it, and the load, pulling lots of hills over an extended time, perhaps you will see it going up, but the pyro will be telling you first you have to back out of it.
I doubt even pulling at max GCWR you would see a lot over 150 even at high summer temps, maybe 190.
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?
When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?
When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
YIKES!!! I think we're overdue for the updated rear cover and new fluid if that's the case -- we don't run at max CGVWR, but by the time we add in the pushing-a-brick-thru-the-wind aerodynamics of a slide in camper and that we do long pulls up grades, I bet the pumpkin is toasty...
I guess I'll be needing to quickly jump out and take a temp reading with the temp gun some day.
The semi's I have driven in the past ran temps of 180-210, depending on many different things. Had one rear end once reach 230, while the front one was running lower. Just not sure what that temp was. That was running North bound in the summer on I-17 towards Flagstaff. Loaded with 450 head of sheep.
Do you have any data to back that up, or are those guesses?
When I was a transmission cooling engineer sometimes the trucks I tested had a thermocouple in the diff. When I ran 115°F ambient, max GCWR, and an 8% grade I would see temps near 300°F. Where do you get 150-190°F from?
A half hour at a time, usually. That's running in a wind tunnel. I could get the same temps on a road that we often tested on, too. That was Arizona 68, heading up towards Union Gap from Bullhead City, AZ. It was about 12 miles at an average of 8% grade. It usually was over 110°F in Bullhead City.
Would turning under heavy loads cause more
heat vs. Straight vs up a straight hill?
wonder which causes more friction
just adding power or the diff slipping in a turn?
It depends on what type of diff. An open diff will use the spider gears to allow the two sides to turn at different speeds. That will make a very, very small amount of additional heat. A limited slip will slip a clutch and will produce more heat.
A half hour at a time, usually. That's running in a wind tunnel. I could get the same temps on a road that we often tested on, too. That was Arizona 68, heading up towards Union Gap from Bullhead City, AZ. It was about 12 miles at an average of 8% grade. It usually was over 110°F in Bullhead City.
Gotcha, just wanted to make sure it was real world conditions. It always amazes me that these trucks can withstand that kind of driving. I get nervous holding WOT for a 0-60 run, let alone for 30 minutes straight.
I get nervous holding WOT for a 0-60 run, let alone for 30 minutes straight.
Climbing I-70 west of Denver towards the Eisenhower tunnel with an F-550 6.0L at 30,000 pounds actual weight I've had my right foot planted on the floor for longer than that. If I remember right it was about 45 minutes to climb that grade at about 37 MPH. Though it was a longer grade it didn't get as hot because it was always quite a bit cooler in Colorado than Arizona.
Originally Posted by BPofMD
OK...NOW - can anyone give me the answer to my question - pretty please?
As I will if/when I get the new cover. Will prob get it before the camping season gets here. Looks like the only cover available that already has the bung for the probe is the Mag Hytech. $247.00 on Amazon
Thanks for the best guess Mark. 320* sounds good to me too!