Can It Be Ordered?
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Have you considered just getting a truck with cloth seats then recovering them with leather seat covers? Theres some companies out there making high quality seat covers and, if installed right, look just as good as factory.
Stacey David used Katzkin seat covers on his Drag'N'Wagon on Gearz. It looked kick ***! Look em up
Stacey David used Katzkin seat covers on his Drag'N'Wagon on Gearz. It looked kick ***! Look em up
I must say wife wants to know,, after all the problems with the 2002 why I would pay about double to replace it with another Ford,, even knowing that I spent 32 years working there. And have always bought Fords.
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No,,, but I have wondered if the leather caption chairs from my 2002 would fit, and I guess I can use my air chisel to cut a hole for installing it's moon roof also. but might be hard to seal it from the rain leaking in,, but then the one I have leaks. Just one of many little problems with this truck..
I must say wife wants to know,, after all the problems with the 2002 why I would pay about double to replace it with another Ford,, even knowing that I spent 32 years working there. And have always bought Fords.
I must say wife wants to know,, after all the problems with the 2002 why I would pay about double to replace it with another Ford,, even knowing that I spent 32 years working there. And have always bought Fords.
you want a truck.
no one else makes one.
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^^^ AMEN!
Ford has had their problems over the years, but not as many as everyone else lol.
Just tell her my family motto: Fords may not run like new for long, but they'll run like sheat forever!
Ford has had their problems over the years, but not as many as everyone else lol.
Just tell her my family motto: Fords may not run like new for long, but they'll run like sheat forever!
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From the Company's viewpoint, complexity costs money. During my career, learned if you had less than 50,000 buildable combinations on a production vehicle you were doing good. Why is it money? Perhaps the driveshaft lenght is (slightly) different with the EB vs the V8 due to engine length, and the non-EB V6 driveshaft of the right length can't pass durability testing. New exhaust system parts, etc, etc. While each part in itself is not a huge deal, the whole scope of engineering more combinations requires more engineering, more part tooling, more part inventory in plants and service, etc, etc. So, combinations not viewed to be profitable are not written into the plan for the vehicle.
Hope this makes some sense, but won't make the OP happy. No manufacturere makes all options in any combo. Did some competitive benchmarking for my company, and found a huge selling competitive sedan only offered grey interiors. We had 3 or 4 colors (can't remember a long time ago)....
Hope this makes some sense, but won't make the OP happy. No manufacturere makes all options in any combo. Did some competitive benchmarking for my company, and found a huge selling competitive sedan only offered grey interiors. We had 3 or 4 colors (can't remember a long time ago)....
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Since we are all dreaming, I want a 2013 Superduty, Supercab, long bed, 4x4 with........... Ecoboost. Give all the specs, and capabilities of this motor in an F-150 I feel the 3.5EB would be right at home as the base motor for the Superduty. I personally just like the feel of a 3/4 ton compared to a 1/2 ton. Why they haven't done this yet is beyond me as the EB is as effective as the 6.2 in the F250 as it is.
My guess is Ford is too proud of having the F150 as best selling status, forcing those who would normally by a middle of the road XLT Superduty spring for a Cadilac grade F150 instead. My guess is they also would lose so many sales of 6.7 diesels that most people don't REALLY need in the first place.
My guess is Ford is too proud of having the F150 as best selling status, forcing those who would normally by a middle of the road XLT Superduty spring for a Cadilac grade F150 instead. My guess is they also would lose so many sales of 6.7 diesels that most people don't REALLY need in the first place.
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[quote=cschannuth;12837159]My dealer buddy said they won't put the ecoboost in a short bed regular cab because a truck that short with that much power and torque would be too dangerous to drive.quote]
what about a Ford lighting? New Ford Boss Mustang? New Shelby GT500? GT500? LS7 Corvette, New SS Camero etc etc? Because IF Ford sold this truck they would sell like hot cakes! Guys would be running them on the track ever weekend and then parts will start failing and then Ford will be right back where they were with the 6.0 trying to come up with excuses....
what about a Ford lighting? New Ford Boss Mustang? New Shelby GT500? GT500? LS7 Corvette, New SS Camero etc etc? Because IF Ford sold this truck they would sell like hot cakes! Guys would be running them on the track ever weekend and then parts will start failing and then Ford will be right back where they were with the 6.0 trying to come up with excuses....
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Say what? the ecoboost should be the standard motor for the SD trucks? The 5.4 is a just barely okish excuse for a SD truck motor, I'm happy Ford only has the 6.2 and the 6.7 as a motor. Its just like GM trucks the 6.0 is not a good motor in their trucks either, I'm on the GM heavy duty forum and 90% of the 6.0 guys complain about how weak the 6.0 is and how GM just offer the 8.1 big block again
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[quote=Ramble on;12854815]From the Company's viewpoint, complexity costs money. During my career, learned if you had less than 50,000 build able combinations on a production vehicle you were doing good. Why is it money? Perhaps the drive shaft length is (slightly) different with the EB vs the V8 due to engine length, and the non-EB V6 drive shaft of the right length can't pass durability testing. New exhaust system parts, etc, etc. quote]
i cant see parts not passing, especially when there are specialty companies that make drive shaft etc that come with a lifetime if you break it we'll fix it free warranties.
i cant see parts not passing, especially when there are specialty companies that make drive shaft etc that come with a lifetime if you break it we'll fix it free warranties.
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Say what? the ecoboost should be the standard motor for the SD trucks? The 5.4 is a just barely okish excuse for a SD truck motor, I'm happy Ford only has the 6.2 and the 6.7 as a motor. Its just like GM trucks the 6.0 is not a good motor in their trucks either, I'm on the GM heavy duty forum and 90% of the 6.0 guys complain about how weak the 6.0 is and how GM just offer the 8.1 big block again
My biggest and only complaint was fuel milage, 10 mpg no matter how you drove it, towing or not, etc.... The 6.0 Vortec is probably one of the most trouble free and reliable V8's over the last decade. It's just not very efficient. 8.1 owners will complain into eternity that nothing is superior etc... they are right up there with 7.3 Powerstroke owners (nothing against that motor and I love them too) but there are better motors now.
Would still be driving that '08 3/4 Chevy with the 6.0 Vortec today and loving every minute if it didnt get such poor fuel economy. In the three years and 45k miles I owned the truck, working it like a dog and putting it away wet everytime it only needed one power steering pump (weak link on the 3/4 & 1 tons) a Battery, factory one was dead when I got the truck new, so it lasted about 12k miles then crapped out. Both passenger and driver power locks quit at some point, everything covered under warranty. Absolutely nothing ever went wrong with the motor or trans.
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Please, 6.0 Vortec weak?? What?? I had a 2008 Chevy 3/4 ton reg/cab, long bed with 3.73. That motor was anything but weak. Pleanty of torque, and pleanty of passing power loaded or not. Would pulled my 6K Keystone TT like it wasn't there, then again I had the then new 6-speed auto so I can't speak for previous years.
My biggest and only complaint was fuel milage, 10 mpg no matter how you drove it, towing or not, etc.... The 6.0 Vortec is probably one of the most trouble free and reliable V8's over the last decade. It's just not very efficient. 8.1 owners will complain into eternity that nothing is superior etc... they are right up there with 7.3 Powerstroke owners (nothing against that motor and I love them too) but there are better motors now.
Would still be driving that '08 3/4 Chevy with the 6.0 Vortec today and loving every minute if it didnt get such poor fuel economy. In the three years and 45k miles I owned the truck, working it like a dog and putting it away wet everytime it only needed one power steering pump (weak link on the 3/4 & 1 tons) a Battery, factory one was dead when I got the truck new, so it lasted about 12k miles then crapped out. Both passenger and driver power locks quit at some point, everything covered under warranty. Absolutely nothing ever went wrong with the motor or trans.
My biggest and only complaint was fuel milage, 10 mpg no matter how you drove it, towing or not, etc.... The 6.0 Vortec is probably one of the most trouble free and reliable V8's over the last decade. It's just not very efficient. 8.1 owners will complain into eternity that nothing is superior etc... they are right up there with 7.3 Powerstroke owners (nothing against that motor and I love them too) but there are better motors now.
Would still be driving that '08 3/4 Chevy with the 6.0 Vortec today and loving every minute if it didnt get such poor fuel economy. In the three years and 45k miles I owned the truck, working it like a dog and putting it away wet everytime it only needed one power steering pump (weak link on the 3/4 & 1 tons) a Battery, factory one was dead when I got the truck new, so it lasted about 12k miles then crapped out. Both passenger and driver power locks quit at some point, everything covered under warranty. Absolutely nothing ever went wrong with the motor or trans.
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I agree with the 6.0 bein a brute! I also cant speak for the older ones but my gpa owns a 2011 Chevy Express 12 passenger van. Holy hell! It will HAUL for a van with a 1 ton frame on it lol
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[quote=SuperDutyScaler;12857691]
I'm with you. The smallest, lightest F150 plus EcoBoost would be great...
My dealer buddy said they won't put the ecoboost in a short bed regular cab because a truck that short with that much power and torque would be too dangerous to drive.quote]
what about a Ford lighting? New Ford Boss Mustang? New Shelby GT500? GT500? LS7 Corvette, New SS Camero etc etc? Because IF Ford sold this truck they would sell like hot cakes! Guys would be running them on the track ever weekend and then parts will start failing and then Ford will be right back where they were with the 6.0 trying to come up with excuses....
what about a Ford lighting? New Ford Boss Mustang? New Shelby GT500? GT500? LS7 Corvette, New SS Camero etc etc? Because IF Ford sold this truck they would sell like hot cakes! Guys would be running them on the track ever weekend and then parts will start failing and then Ford will be right back where they were with the 6.0 trying to come up with excuses....
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What bewilders me is Dodge already has this set-up essentially. They have a reg cab short bed with a hemi stuffed under the hood for around the $20,000 range. Best part is you can order only what you need. No power windows, no power locks, no 4x4, cloth seats, vinyl floor. Basically you can get all power and no frills if you want! If you get a Ford, most of your options are chose for you...
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What bewilders me is Dodge already has this set-up essentially. They have a reg cab short bed with a hemi stuffed under the hood for around the $20,000 range. Best part is you can order only what you need. No power windows, no power locks, no 4x4, cloth seats, vinyl floor. Basically you can get all power and no frills if you want! If you get a Ford, most of your options are chose for you...