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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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Lariat Outlaw

Last week i purchased a F250 Outlaw. i absolutely LOVE this truck.. I found this forum by googling information on this great ride...

I have a few ?'s as a new 'stroke owner... (have owned many fords in the past but usually 300 inline 6's)

When you talk of "chips" what are you talking about and how can I tell if they havent already been done.. and what do they do...

Any idea how many Outlaws were in production?

Am looking for some info on the stock radio/accessories...

What are any issues/problems with the 6.0 i might encounter here in ND?


all of my company trucks have been diesels but all stock and no upgrades and were 6.4's

Im sure i will have more questions in the near future but for now these are the top of my head.

Cheers!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Congrat's on the truck! Maintenance X3, Get a scan Guauge 2 and moniter your vital's. Pictures, or it didn't happen!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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ty sir.... hmmmmm layman terms??

I did put some pics in the "garage" and will post some here...

i heard of one more here in Minot ND that my pops seen last night... I seen it tonight and after a stare down in appreciation with each other I pulled over to the next pump to talk shop with the other owner for a few minutes.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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What does "ty sir hmmmmmm layman terms??" mean?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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ty Thank you....

layman terms.... meaning i have no idea what you said either lol
maintenance X3, Get a scan Guauge 2 and moniter your vital's. Pictures, or it didn't happen!


i know how to drive a diesel and fuel it up.... the rest i am completely in the dark
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Go to top of page, select model's, select diesel, select 6.0. Read up my friend. Get over to the 6.0 section. Once in the 6.0 section, read the tech file. That will get you going!
Edit: A scan guage ll, plugs into the OBD port, and can tell you way more than your dash gauges. On a 6.0 you want to monitor engine oil temp, engine coolant temp (These need to be within 15* of eachother) and you want to monitor your FICM voltage (Fuel Injector Control Module). Lot's of reading to be had!

Only use Ford/Motorcraft, or Racor fuel, and oil filters PERIOD!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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gotcha!!! headed to bed so ill make note to do that first thing when i get on tomorrow
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006lariat
Go to top of page, select model's, select diesel, select 6.0. Read up my friend. Get over to the 6.0 section. Once in the 6.0 section, read the tech file. That will get you going!
Edit: A scan guage ll, plugs into the OBD port, and can tell you way more than your dash gauges. On a 6.0 you want to monitor engine oil temp, engine coolant temp (These need to be within 15* of eachother) and you want to monitor your FICM voltage (Fuel Injector Control Module). Lot's of reading to be had!

Only use Ford/Motorcraft, or Racor fuel, and oil filters PERIOD!
^^^^ Very good advise read read and read some more, Then ask questions.

AND the most critical thing is ENJOY your new truck.

Sean
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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still reading up on all the info.... wow what a lot to take in!!!...

how do you tell if you have chips and other accessories or mods under the hood. where are they hidden at lol? (told ya i new!)

AJ
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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you chip a 7.3 you tune a 6.0
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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lol... duley noted!!!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by greentree ford
you chip a 7.3 you tune a 6.0
I've got a chip in mine, but it's in my lower left corner of my tailgate
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Steep learning curve for a new 6.0 owner, we all go through it. The trick is to do so without spending a lot of cash.

6.0 101 - the easy entry level course...

Oil changes and maintenance - the high pressure oil pump that drives the fuel injection system of the 6.0 uses engine oil, pressurizes it up to 3200 psi, and shears the oil molecules quite harshly, so you need to put new oil in every 5K miles unless you undertake an oil analysis experiment to actually track the oil degradation. Use a quality 5W-40 synthetic in the winter, and you can change to a 15W-40 in the summer (defined as low temps above 50 degrees). Use an OEM oil filter AND cap only, they really are different (and patented). Use only OEM fuel filters, there are two of them and they come from the dealer in a kit - they really are different too. Oil every 5K, fuel every 15K miles is the accepted recommendation.

The FICM is the fuel injection control module. It has a power supply that steps up the battery 12v to 48v to energize the injector solenoids. If the batteries or the alternator start to fail, the FICM has to work too hard to get up to 48v and it's power supply can start to fail. If the FICM voltage drops below 45 volts, that's the indication that it has failed and at that point will start to damage the injectors. The truck will run fine for a while, but you are doing damage that can be very costly, so you need to get a gauge to monitor FICM voltage.

The fuel pressure must be over 50 PSI or the injectors starve and fail. The stock OEM fuel pressure regulator spring was a little weak, and fuel pressure could drop below 45 psi, causing injector failure. There is a Ford OEM upgrade spring that must be installed, it's about $45 and maybe 45 minutes to install, and fuel pressure will sit at about 60 psi. Many get a fuel pressure gauge to monitor this.

The oil cooler is a water - oil element that uses engine coolant to cool the engine oil. For several reasons it is prone to clogging up and restricting the coolant flow, and then the oil temperature will rise. The other problem, which is actually quite a bit worse, is that the oil cooler gets the flow of engine coolant before the EGR cooler. The EGR cooler cools the flow of exhaust gas that is recirculated into the intake system for emission control purposes. What happens is that the oil cooler clogs up, this starves the EGR cooler of coolant which allows it to overheat, then it fails and allows coolant into the intake, which gets in to the cylinders and hydro-locks the engine which blows the head gaskets. So you need to monitor both the coolant temp and the oil temp, and Ford has told us that the key is a consistent difference in temperature of more than 15 degrees suggests that the oil cooler is clogged and the EGR cooler is in danger of failing.

Gauges: basically the gauges on the dash of the truck, with the exception of the fuel gauge and the boost gauge, are useless. The oil pressure gauge is connected to a 7 psi switch, not a real sending unit, and the two temp gauges read normal for everything but an exploding engine. So you must get a computerized gauge that reads the OBDII data directly from the engine computer. There are several, but I use a Scangauge II programmed with Ford specific gauges to read the FICM voltage and the oil/coolant temps, and a whole bunch of other things (but sadly not fuel pressure).

Welcome to the 6.0 PSD world - betcha didn't think you'd be going to school on it, did you?

Brian
 
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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thanks MC!!

so when you say a Scangauge II.... those are the fancy gauges that I see on the window pillar on most diesels? usually a 3-4 gauge pack...

lots of useful info and I will sure reference it regular

AJ
 
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