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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Allhuntalltime, that is one of the prevailing themes I have found in this forum. Get the truck running right and efficient, then add the tunes. By making it right, you add gauges and monitor what is going on. Clean up any leaks or failing sensors, then go for the tunes. At least that is what I have gathered from all my reading.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
I have no idea how any 7.3 ever lifted a finger for work before the 6.0 was even a thought. Magic?


Magic huh, that must be how DI keeps their trannies alive, since heat doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone that lets him work on their trucks.

To the PO, first thing is to get a good trans temp gauge. I haven't had issues either with the stock cooler, but I'm keeping a close watch at my gauge and the first sign this summer that it's getting hot I'm throwing a 6.0 cooler on with a derail thermostat. Actually I'll probably get the thermostat now since I have issues getting up to 170*.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
I have no idea how any 7.3 ever lifted a finger for work before the 6.0 was even a thought. Magic?
So are you implying we should all have just stuck with our old IBM computers and dial up internet? They worked just fine right, no reason to upgrade to get better performance? In fact, this whole forum should be deleted and we should go back to writing messages and having carrier pigeons send them out?

Is the 7.3 a good platform...yes!
Can proven improvements be made to get better reliability and performance...yes!

I'm trying to understand where you are headed with this. Is it stupid to modify our trucks from what Ford felt was their best option?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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TCR thinks ford got it right the first time, and any mod thereafter is a downgrade from stock and reduces reliability. He also has cloth seats, sooooo....yeah.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyt
TCR thinks ford got it right the first time, and any mod thereafter is a downgrade from stock and reduces reliability. He also has cloth seats, sooooo....yeah.
Hey now... I have cloth seats too

Even with the XLT package, I am damn sure that my 160cc jectors, tuner, JW built trans, T-500 HPOP and most of the other goodies on my rig are far superior to what "the factory" decided was right. The only thing that could possibly be argued as a downgrade is my e99 turbo wheel and foil delete I did.

I mean, I understand David doesn't feel the need for a 6.0 cooler, but when Brian almost insists on one, John Wood reccommends one (or tru-cool if you don't want to spring the dough) and even Mark K. has offered his positive opinion on the 6.0 cooler, then all signs point to it being an "upgrade" to factory transmission cooling. Oh well... I better get off the forum now, I have injectors, a trans, hpop and a few other things I better go pull off my truck before it's too late!!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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I can't say what my trans temp was before I installed my 6.0 cooler. But after winter time with outside temp in the 30's and 40's I run about 100 105 (not towing) Summer temps vary because I travel in different states towing about 12,000 lbs. Outside temps could reach 75 to 105 degrees. My trans temp will be about 135 140 with the highest I have seen is 155 degrees. I don't like the idea of a inline thermostat, just something to go out when you need it most. I have had my trans fluid flused twice since I installed the 6.0 cooler and the fluid looks great.

If your not towing do you really need a bigger cooler? If towing I would recommend the 6.0.

Regardless, you should have a trans temp gauge. I check mine all the time.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyt
TCR thinks ford got it right the first time, and any mod thereafter is a downgrade from stock and reduces reliability. He also has cloth seats, sooooo....yeah.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyt
TCR thinks ford got it right the first time, and any mod thereafter is a downgrade from stock and reduces reliability. He also has cloth seats, sooooo....yeah.
I never said that but since we're on the subject, I'd be willing to bet there are fewer issues with stock trucks than those that have these so called upgrades. I'd bet that down time due to rigging these trucks up is phenomenal. Heck, take a look around and read the threads. This forum exists pretty much solely to repair these upgrades.

What I did straight up say is that Ford has been around a lot longer than just the 6.0. The 7.3 has long done jobs without hesitation or question for decades before the 6.0 and the trend that is adding its cooler to a 7.3 was ever around.

You think 6.0's trannies never go out? That's what you're saying.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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You act as if the 7.3 can't do anything without a 6.0 cooler. Well guess what Jeff, it can and has.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
I never said that but since we're on the subject, I'd be willing to bet there are fewer issues with stock trucks than those that have these so called upgrades. I'd bet that down time due to rigging these trucks up is phenomenal. Heck, take a look around and read the threads. This forum exists pretty much solely to repair these upgrades.

What I did straight up say is that Ford has been around a lot longer than just the 6.0. The 7.3 has long done jobs without hesitation or question for decades before the 6.0 and the trend that is adding its cooler to a 7.3 was ever around.

You think 6.0's trannies never go out? That's what you're saying.
Actually he never said 6.0 trannies don't go out. Everyone knows they do, albeit not to the frequency that the 4R100 does. All anyone is saying is the 6.0 cooler does a better job, and you cannot deny that. It is 3x the size of the 7.3 cooler so of course it does a better job.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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You act as if the 7.3 can't do anything without a 6.0 cooler. Well guess what Jeff, it can and has.
I never said that. I was really just jabbing at you man, it was just tongue and cheek. But, I do know that it makes since to maintain the transmission at the ford designed operating temp. Mark K designed and tested transmissions for Ford, and he even says that it's best to maintain that operating temp. If my stock setup is having problems staying cool, I need a bigger better cooler.

Now, you've stated previously in one of my "truck totaled in Houston" threads that if the trans can't maintain temp with the stock cooler, there must be something wrong with the trans. Possibly, but shy of spending 3-4grand on a new trans, I'll try a bigger cooler first to see if I can prolong the life of the existing one by another 100k. Just my .02
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
I never said that but since we're on the subject, I'd be willing to bet there are fewer issues with stock trucks than those that have these so called upgrades. I'd bet that down time due to rigging these trucks up is phenomenal. Heck, take a look around and read the threads. This forum exists pretty much solely to repair these upgrades.

What I did straight up say is that Ford has been around a lot longer than just the 6.0. The 7.3 has long done jobs without hesitation or question for decades before the 6.0 and the trend that is adding its cooler to a 7.3 was ever around.

You think 6.0's trannies never go out? That's what you're saying.
I have had zero issues with my truck since installing my 160cc injectors and DP tuner. I upgraded to a T-500 to grab hold of better performance not because something broke. My down time has been extremely minimal btw.

Also, the 6.0 has a different transmission all together, comparing apples to pears there.

Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
You act as if the 7.3 can't do anything without a 6.0 cooler. Well guess what Jeff, it can and has.
It can do a lot without a 6.0 cooler... it can get groceries, probably run down the track, and would make a great work truck as well. Now, having had both a stock and now a 6.0 cooler, the stock is insufficient when towing heavy loads up grade. My trans would skyrocket to well over 220 if I let it. Now with the 6.0 cooler, I pull grades with my 5er at around 175-180. So yes, if you don't tow anything, you don't need one, as has been said before. If you do, it's a nice piece of insurance to keep things cool. Now, having said that, yes, even without the 6.0 cooler, my truck would still pull the 5er up the grade, just had to monitor trans temps and adjust accordingly, I have NO worries with it though.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Funny, my truck was used to tow heavy farm equipment all across the country. Worked just fine all stock for 300k miles.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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Funny, my truck was used to tow heavy farm equipment all across the country. Worked just fine all stock for 300k miles.
Yeah we know...
 
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
Funny, my truck was used to tow heavy farm equipment all across the country. Worked just fine all stock for 300k miles.
And if I remember, YOU didn't tow, don't truly know what all happened, and your trans did blow up, correct?
 
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