Driver's side coolant leak solved
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Driver's side coolant leak solved
For the last few weeks, since putting on the IH water pump with spin on filter, I have been experiencing an intermittent coolant leak from the driver's side head area. I couldn't find exactly where it was coming from till today while I was waiting for the RTV to cure on my front diff cover. I searched high and low for anyone with a similar problem on this site and other sites. I could not find anything!
I found the leak was splattering/dripping all over, which made it hard to source. Turns out it was coming from the heater return line from the rear heater. This return line runs from a fitting on the passenger side firewall just above the other heater lines. It connects to a hard line that is fastened to the firewall as it crosses over to the driver's side of the engine bay. It then dives down and connects to a brass fitting on the rear of the driver's side head just below the "dog house". I thought that fitting was leaking, but I found today that it was a clip fitting for the soft hose connecting that hard line just above/adjacent to the turbo.
Here is where it was leaking. The fitting had a bunch of scale built up in there, and one of the two o-rings had failed.
Here is a shot of the short gap the rubber hose spans to make the connection from the hard line to the head.
Here is the hose.
Here are the innards of the connection. O-ring then plastic spacer then another o-ring.
Here is the fitting after I cleaned all the corrosion off of it.
Dug into my stash of o-rings
And I found the correct size. Replaced the o-rings and put the now clean fitting back together. I found the fitting WOULD NOT go back together until I put a little white lithium grease on the o-rings. Once I did that, it snapped right back together with very little effort.
I can only speculate as to why this fitting and o-rings failed, but I suspect it is because we very rarely use the rear heater down here in Texas, and that fluid in the line had gotten stagnant in the line. Just a guess...maybe someone else has a theory???
I found the leak was splattering/dripping all over, which made it hard to source. Turns out it was coming from the heater return line from the rear heater. This return line runs from a fitting on the passenger side firewall just above the other heater lines. It connects to a hard line that is fastened to the firewall as it crosses over to the driver's side of the engine bay. It then dives down and connects to a brass fitting on the rear of the driver's side head just below the "dog house". I thought that fitting was leaking, but I found today that it was a clip fitting for the soft hose connecting that hard line just above/adjacent to the turbo.
Here is where it was leaking. The fitting had a bunch of scale built up in there, and one of the two o-rings had failed.
Here is a shot of the short gap the rubber hose spans to make the connection from the hard line to the head.
Here is the hose.
Here are the innards of the connection. O-ring then plastic spacer then another o-ring.
Here is the fitting after I cleaned all the corrosion off of it.
Dug into my stash of o-rings
And I found the correct size. Replaced the o-rings and put the now clean fitting back together. I found the fitting WOULD NOT go back together until I put a little white lithium grease on the o-rings. Once I did that, it snapped right back together with very little effort.
I can only speculate as to why this fitting and o-rings failed, but I suspect it is because we very rarely use the rear heater down here in Texas, and that fluid in the line had gotten stagnant in the line. Just a guess...maybe someone else has a theory???
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For the last few weeks, since putting on the IH water pump with spin on filter, I have been experiencing an intermittent coolant leak from the driver's side head area. I couldn't find exactly where it was coming from till today while I was waiting for the RTV to cure on my front diff cover. I searched high and low for anyone with a similar problem on this site and other sites. I could not find anything!
I found the leak was splattering/dripping all over, which made it hard to source. Turns out it was coming from the heater return line from the rear heater. This return line runs from a fitting on the passenger side firewall just above the other heater lines. It connects to a hard line that is fastened to the firewall as it crosses over to the driver's side of the engine bay. It then dives down and connects to a brass fitting on the rear of the driver's side head just below the "dog house". I thought that fitting was leaking, but I found today that it was a clip fitting for the soft hose connecting that hard line just above/adjacent to the turbo.
Here is where it was leaking. The fitting had a bunch of scale built up in there, and one of the two o-rings had failed.
Attachment 68874
Here is a shot of the short gap the rubber hose spans to make the connection from the hard line to the head.
Attachment 68875
Here is the hose.
Attachment 68876
Here are the innards of the connection. O-ring then plastic spacer then another o-ring.
Attachment 68877
Here is the fitting after I cleaned all the corrosion off of it.
Attachment 68878
Dug into my stash of o-rings
Attachment 68879
And I found the correct size. Replaced the o-rings and put the now clean fitting back together. I found the fitting WOULD NOT go back together until I put a little white lithium grease on the o-rings. Once I did that, it snapped right back together with very little effort.
Attachment 68880
I can only speculate as to why this fitting and o-rings failed, but I suspect it is because we very rarely use the rear heater down here in Texas, and that fluid in the line had gotten stagnant in the line. Just a guess...maybe someone else has a theory???
I found the leak was splattering/dripping all over, which made it hard to source. Turns out it was coming from the heater return line from the rear heater. This return line runs from a fitting on the passenger side firewall just above the other heater lines. It connects to a hard line that is fastened to the firewall as it crosses over to the driver's side of the engine bay. It then dives down and connects to a brass fitting on the rear of the driver's side head just below the "dog house". I thought that fitting was leaking, but I found today that it was a clip fitting for the soft hose connecting that hard line just above/adjacent to the turbo.
Here is where it was leaking. The fitting had a bunch of scale built up in there, and one of the two o-rings had failed.
Attachment 68874
Here is a shot of the short gap the rubber hose spans to make the connection from the hard line to the head.
Attachment 68875
Here is the hose.
Attachment 68876
Here are the innards of the connection. O-ring then plastic spacer then another o-ring.
Attachment 68877
Here is the fitting after I cleaned all the corrosion off of it.
Attachment 68878
Dug into my stash of o-rings
Attachment 68879
And I found the correct size. Replaced the o-rings and put the now clean fitting back together. I found the fitting WOULD NOT go back together until I put a little white lithium grease on the o-rings. Once I did that, it snapped right back together with very little effort.
Attachment 68880
I can only speculate as to why this fitting and o-rings failed, but I suspect it is because we very rarely use the rear heater down here in Texas, and that fluid in the line had gotten stagnant in the line. Just a guess...maybe someone else has a theory???
DOE
#6
Hey just a little fyi. I have a 04 ex eb edition with the 6.0. I started having a small leak on the drivers side too. On the 6-0 (at least mine) that hose is a bit different. It comes from the underside of the degas bottle at a Y connection. Runs back to the firewall and then turns. after the turn it becomes metal tube then across the firewall and then Y's. after the Y it turns to rubber again and goes two different directions. One turns and goes to the heater core for the front. The other turns down and turns to metal again to go between the fire wall and the passenger side front fender liner where it has a connection to the pipe that runs all the way to the rear heat. It is all one piece where the rubber is connected to the metal pipe with crimped on connections. It is a Ford only part that runs around 130.00. You have to pull the right front wheel off and remove the fender liner to get to it. The leak came from where it turned around the drivers side of the engine it had rubbed a hole on the corner of the FICM. two small nuts hold the metal pipe to studs on the firewall to hold if back off the engine. Talk about a pita! Gotta love those engineers.
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04ebex, does it connect in to the driver's side head like the 7.3 does? The metal pipe running across the fire wall and anchored by two bolts is the same set up as the 7.3 in that regard. Thanks for sharing the info! I am sure it will help some 6.0 owners out later.
Doubleott, thanks for the tip. I will have to pick some plumber's silicone up for future use.
Doubleott, thanks for the tip. I will have to pick some plumber's silicone up for future use.
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04ebex, does it connect in to the driver's side head like the 7.3 does? The metal pipe running across the fire wall and anchored by two bolts is the same set up as the 7.3 in that regard. Thanks for sharing the info! I am sure it will help some 6.0 owners out later.
Doubleott, thanks for the tip. I will have to pick some plumber's silicone up for future use.
Doubleott, thanks for the tip. I will have to pick some plumber's silicone up for future use.
DOE
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Nicmike, on the 6.0 it does not connect to the head.
LionFan, I did something similar. I took a piece of water tight plastic electrical flex and split it. Rounded off the edges and corners so it kind of clipped around the hose right at the FICM. I will keep an eye on it as this was a pita and a bit expensive.
LionFan, I did something similar. I took a piece of water tight plastic electrical flex and split it. Rounded off the edges and corners so it kind of clipped around the hose right at the FICM. I will keep an eye on it as this was a pita and a bit expensive.
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You need the part number for the short rubber hose that runs from the head to the hard line on the firewall? I can look it up if that is what you need. I re-used mine.
The manual refers to it as a "heater return line". This is for the short rubber piece and the hard line fastened to the firewall. Strangely, there is no part number given.
The manual refers to it as a "heater return line". This is for the short rubber piece and the hard line fastened to the firewall. Strangely, there is no part number given.
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