DPF delete
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Back to OP. I've used both an edge race tuner and an H&S (now). Main difference is the tranny tuning. Both gave me a lot more power and much much better oil reports. The Edge was used and cost me 300 buckaroos, the H&S mini was new and cost around $950. I was having some tranny problems and I got scared off the Edge, but between the time I ordered the H&S and got it installed the local ford dealer checked out the tranny and said everything was fine. So, if I was on a budget I would tune with whatever I could find that would get the dpf off. it's the real problem.
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I'm still tossing around the idea of removing the DPF and EGR on my truck at 65000 miles. Can you guys give any specifics regarding what is so much better after the changes? Power train is all stock.
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I drove my truck 40000 miles stock. During that time I changed oil every 5000 miles and sent a sample to Blackstone. I had what I considered poor reports with dilution up to 15% and a lot of wear that seemed high for the mleage on the engine. At 35,000 I began draining down the oil to 1 quart low (that usually meant draining a quart and a quarter) and then added a quart of fresh at every 1000 mile interval. That made my next report some better but at 40,000 I deleted. My 45000 mile report was the best I ever had and Blackstone noted the improvement without me saying anything about DPF. I was on the road for the 50000 change and forgot to ask the tech for a sample. At 55,000 I had what Blackstone called my best oil run ever. You can find copies of the reports on this forum if you will search my posts. I'd go find them but I'm on a laptop and the battery is getting low. I did not change the intake or exhaust other than the delete. I have no interest in driving fast or drag racing my truck. But, I find it prudent to try and preserve my investment and the half baked technology of the DPF was destroying it. Hope this help's. Edit, OK, found some electricity and bumped the thread up to the top. So now it should be just under this one.
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To mystic i would atleast do the dpf delete ive been tossing it around in my head and thats why i threw the question up here bout it. I work a a fleet mechainc and have been dead set on doing it and just got the money for it after the problems i have seen the 2010 KW at work go through with its system im glad i bought the kit. just wiating on it to come in. the only thing im really upgrading is the fact i got 4 in ss exhaust from the down pipe back with no muffler.
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To mystic i would atleast do the dpf delete ive been tossing it around in my head and thats why i threw the question up here bout it. I work a a fleet mechainc and have been dead set on doing it and just got the money for it after the problems i have seen the 2010 KW at work go through with its system im glad i bought the kit. just wiating on it to come in. the only thing im really upgrading is the fact i got 4 in ss exhaust from the down pipe back with no muffler.
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From: Northern VA
Appreciate the feedback and welcome any more!
It looks like there are two ways to go with the DPF delete.
1. delete the DPF and the CAT
2. delete just the DPF
Both ways seem to cost about $200-300 as the DPF-only delete pipe costs more due to the complicated bolt-on flange where the DPF/CAT delete combo uses two pipes and a less expensive slip fit connector.
Do most people delete both?
Is the tune any different whether you delete DPF-only or both?
Is a $1000 tuner the only way to get the regen turned off in the computer?
I have no interest in boosting power as I now use the truck primarily for towing/hauling/bad weather since I have a daily driver Mustang.
Thanks
It looks like there are two ways to go with the DPF delete.
1. delete the DPF and the CAT
2. delete just the DPF
Both ways seem to cost about $200-300 as the DPF-only delete pipe costs more due to the complicated bolt-on flange where the DPF/CAT delete combo uses two pipes and a less expensive slip fit connector.
Do most people delete both?
Is the tune any different whether you delete DPF-only or both?
Is a $1000 tuner the only way to get the regen turned off in the computer?
I have no interest in boosting power as I now use the truck primarily for towing/hauling/bad weather since I have a daily driver Mustang.
Thanks
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From: Georgia
Appreciate the feedback and welcome any more!
It looks like there are two ways to go with the DPF delete.
1. delete the DPF and the CAT
2. delete just the DPF
Both ways seem to cost about $200-300 as the DPF-only delete pipe costs more due to the complicated bolt-on flange where the DPF/CAT delete combo uses two pipes and a less expensive slip fit connector.
Do most people delete both?
Is the tune any different whether you delete DPF-only or both?
Is a $1000 tuner the only way to get the regen turned off in the computer?
I have no interest in boosting power as I now use the truck primarily for towing/hauling/bad weather since I have a daily driver Mustang.
Thanks
It looks like there are two ways to go with the DPF delete.
1. delete the DPF and the CAT
2. delete just the DPF
Both ways seem to cost about $200-300 as the DPF-only delete pipe costs more due to the complicated bolt-on flange where the DPF/CAT delete combo uses two pipes and a less expensive slip fit connector.
Do most people delete both?
Is the tune any different whether you delete DPF-only or both?
Is a $1000 tuner the only way to get the regen turned off in the computer?
I have no interest in boosting power as I now use the truck primarily for towing/hauling/bad weather since I have a daily driver Mustang.
Thanks
The easiest way is to take both, much simpler and an easy DIY project.
No difference in tuner with or without
You can look around. There is a product on ebay called "DPF delete" I think it's around 500. May not still be there as both H&S and Edge have quit making tuners under fed pressure. How long can it be until they get to the rest. I mean it's not hard to find the manufacturers. There is a used Spartan on the Fort myers Fl craigs list asking 700 and there is a used Edge on the Fort Myers Craigs list asking 350. E bay is a good source and so is Craigs. My first tuner was a used Edge and it was fine but they do not tune the tranny. If you buy a used Spartan there is a fee from the company to transfer it. 100 bucks I think. On ebay go to motors/parts and enter DPF delete. You will get plenty of options. On Craigs just go through the bigger cities and you may find something. Hope this helps.
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I used the Gearbox Z DPF-R to delete the regens & it retains all stock setting with NO Power gains.
I first used a power increase programmer but absolutely HATED the Trans shifts with it & was scared of tranny failure, so I sold it & went with this Gearbox Z DPF-R.
I LOVE MY 6.4 but I'll never sell my 7.3
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From: Georgia
Only when you stand on it. Normal driving I see no smoke and I'm notr on the lowest setting, there are two lower on the H&S.
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I went with the SCT tuner and only deleted the DPF. Everything else is stock. I run the "Performance Tune" and the "Street Tune" for transmission. It's a whole different truck now. Next up will be the EGR delete. I have to really get on it for it to smoke. My fuel mileage has increased, the truck breathes better, it accelerates much easier now, and it has so much more power. You will not regret it.
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