COLD WEATHER
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Hey, might have nothing to do with it but keeping the tanks near full in the winter prevents moisture from forming in the tanks and that may help. I am in a cold climate, northern Ontario, this is the 3rd winter for the truck and have never added any PM stuff or additive to the tanks. I do keep them near full all the time though. And we get really cold temperatures but never have had a problem with the DEF acting up. Usually get about 10 000 kms for 1/2 tank of DEF being used. That is about 6 200 miles for 1/2 tank of DEF. In the winter the DEF never gets below 1/2 and the diesel is topped up every day.
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Welll..... just got back from the dealer and they kept the truck. Gonna have it over night, to do a Glow plug download, and to let it thaw out and De-Gel. I had 4 codes that came up. Didnt get to write them down, but they started with something like Code E-203 or something like that.. The guy talked so damn fast I could barely understand him. But they all had to do with Gelling issues, supposedly. I use the Pm-22, so I dont understand how it could Gel. Also, said I needed the Plug Download. I havent heard of that one yet so?.?.?.?
So, Im ditching the PM-22 if it doesnt prevent gelling in Negative Degree Temps. So, thanks to GSXR for the heads up on DieselFuelLube.com specials that they are running, so I went ahead and ordered a gallon of the Optilube XPD. Paid $50 for a gallon with 2 extra little bottles and a pump. Not a bad deal, so thanks GSXR.
So, Im ditching the PM-22 if it doesnt prevent gelling in Negative Degree Temps. So, thanks to GSXR for the heads up on DieselFuelLube.com specials that they are running, so I went ahead and ordered a gallon of the Optilube XPD. Paid $50 for a gallon with 2 extra little bottles and a pump. Not a bad deal, so thanks GSXR.
[PM-23-A] Motorcraft Diesel Anti Gel and Performance Improver(PM23A)-REPLACES PM-18-A - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks
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So, Im ditching the PM-22 if it doesnt prevent gelling in Negative Degree Temps. So, thanks to GSXR for the heads up on DieselFuelLube.com specials that they are running, so I went ahead and ordered a gallon of the Optilube XPD. Paid $50 for a gallon with 2 extra little bottles and a pump. Not a bad deal, so thanks GSXR.
If the bottle says 'Cetane Booster..' in red letters, that's the summer stuff.
If the bottle says 'Anti-gel...' in black letters, that's the stuff you should be using.
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Yep, I was using the Cetane Booster. Pardon My Ignorance. HA. Anyways I got in my Optilube XPD, and it says on the label Prevents Gel of Fuel. So, hopefully I get my truck back in the AM and shes back to normal.
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Note that the XPD has a different mix ration for summer and winter. You use twice as much in the winter. That is why I switched back to Stanadyne performance formula (at least for the winter).
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Appreciate that Darren. I already have the correct amount for use in winter in the bottle Im going to add tomorrow. Thanks for all the help fellas.
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Doesn't winter fuel already have antigel in it?
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I use the Power Service white bottle in truck and tractor... Have had no problems yet... White bottle anti-gel, gray bottle cetane boost summer.... Although the white has some cetane boost in it also... I run the white bottle year round...
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Got her back from the dealer today, and yep, it threw codes because fuel was gelling up pretty bad. So, dealer let it sit inside the bay over night and let it thaw out and then they did the glow plug download. She drove and ran great from the dealer. I put 10oz of the Optilube in her and filled the tank up. It was -21 here this morning and its a balmy 2 degrees today. So, hopefully the Optilube will do its job and take care of the Gelling issues.
I called and talked to Optilube and asked them if the Winter Blend would be better since its rated fuel will flow at -50 degree and the XPD is rated at -20, he told me that the XPD would be fine. He said that the Winter blend is for really Frigid conditions, like Alaska or Canada where it stays in negative temps for months at a time.
I called and talked to Optilube and asked them if the Winter Blend would be better since its rated fuel will flow at -50 degree and the XPD is rated at -20, he told me that the XPD would be fine. He said that the Winter blend is for really Frigid conditions, like Alaska or Canada where it stays in negative temps for months at a time.
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Yeah, for some reason, I didnt read that part of the label on the PM22. Had a brain fart I guess.
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Im in North Eastern Utah. Moved here from Tn. So, Im new to the REALLY cold weather. Coldest Ive seen it in TN was +8. The coldest Ive seen it in Vernal Utah, is -33. So, thats a BIG difference in what Im used to.