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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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I'm not sure why they didn't stamp that on the 4x4 trucks, but I did read where ND said that they often would leave the front code out and the only way to tell the specifics then is to look at the tag attached to the front diff cover. Of course, that can go missing fairly easily. I know my white truck has that tag but haven't looked at the red truck close enough there yet to know. As I understand it there is the 3M normal and the 3.5M heavy duty and either of them could come with or without free running hubs. Both of my trucks came with 3M and free running hubs.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Redneck
So the body code is D81B correct?
Open your peepers, do you see it listed as such? No!
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BODY: D81 (D = Medium Beige Crush Vinyl & Medium Beige Cody Pattern Woven Plastic // 81 = 81B Custom Cab).
3rd digit of AXLE code rarely listed by FoMoCo. I thought you'd like to have it.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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Here's the tag on my white truck. I'll get one of the red/white truck as soon as I can. If this isn't close enough I can take a better one.

 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Here's the tag on my white truck. I'll get one of the red/white truck as soon as I can. If this isn't close enough I can take a better one.

Why the 6 digit DSO?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Open your peepers, do you see it listed as such? No!

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
BODY: D81 (D = Medium Beige Crush Vinyl & Medium Beige Cody Pattern Woven Plastic // 81 = 81B Custom Cab).
I've never been called the sharpest tool in the shed. The 81 = 81B confused me.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
3rd digit of AXLE code rarely listed by FoMoCo. I thought you'd like to have it.
Did they start to list it in the later years? We have a '74, '75, '76, and '77 highboy, and they all have the 3 digit axle code.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Did they start to list it in the later years? We have a '74, '75, '76, and '77 highboy, and they all have the 3 digit axle code.
But what are the 3rd digits? Do they relate to the front axle as to type, ratio and capacity? Probably not.

1973/77: Most will be J = Power Steering / Or 2 = Without P/S.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Why the 6 digit DSO?
As told by the daughter and son-in-law who were the second owners, the original owner ordered the truck from Van Cleve Motors. The current owner of Van Cleve (Jim Jr.) could tell from paperwork that I showed him that his Grandfather (George Van Cleve) financed the truck for the owner, which Jim Jr. said was somewhat unusual, but that banks also didn't commonly give loans for cars back in that era. I have the final payoff amount of $1.50 to Van Cleve on 5/6/1968, two years after the purchase date.

The window sticker/invoice was mailed to the original owner on March 6th, 1966 a few days before the truck even rolled off the assembly line. He didn't take delivery of the truck until 2 months later. Delivery, dealer prep (bumper, mirrors) and probably snow in the passes between him and the truck.

I have the original hand written order form for the 1959 F100 that was traded in on the 1966 F250. I got this stack of paperwork that includes things like registrations for the 1959 and 1966, camper registrations, boat registrations, hunting licenses, land deeds, transfers of ownership...even their own social security cards. It was all in a gallon plastic bag that the son-in-law hesitated to even give to me at all, but the daughter (his wife) asked him what he was ever going to do with it all. He agreed and handed over everything without looking through it.

Thankfully, because the invoice and some other goodies were in there that I would have never known about.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
Why the 6 digit DSO?
Truck was ordered special by original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."

When there is a 6 digit DSO, the first 2 are related to the Ford district sales office the vehicle was ordered from.

The last 4 digits relate to a Domestic Special Order. Special equipment was installed on the vehicle after it left the assembly line that was not an RPO (Regular Production Order).

Could have been a Utility Bed, special bumper, 4WD conversion and etc etc etc.

Since there would be no parts catalog listing for the special equipment, if it broke or was defective, the dealer contacts FoMoCo, reads off the DSO. FoMoCo looks up the order, tells the dealer where the parts can be found.

6 digit DSO also pertains to special non standard paint if no COLOR code stamped on Warranty Plate.

Dealer contacts FoMoCo, reads off DSO, FoMoCo looks up order, passes paint formula back to dealer. Same DSO system used today.

1965: Purchased new F100, financed it thru Security First National Bank.

Kelley Blue Books have been extant since the 1930's, their main purpose is for dealers, banks and finanace companies to know what the wholesale loan value is on specific vehicles people want to finance.

Typically the loan value is 70/80% of the wholesale price. the amount that could be financed.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
But what are the 3rd digits? Do they relate to the front axle as to type, ratio and capacity? Probably not.

1973/77: Most will be J = Power Steering / Or 2 = Without P/S.
The '77 is J.

The '74 though, is 24P. What does that denote?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
The '77 is J = Power Steering.

The '74 though, is 24P. What does that denote?
24P: 24 = Dana 60 Rear Axle / 4.10-1 / No Limited Slip / 5,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity // P = Dana 44-6CF Front Driving Axle / 4.09-1 / 3,500 lb. Capacity with Power Steering.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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The '75 is also 24P. They '76 is another 24J.

Why did Ford denote the 3500 pound axle, but not others?

What would the letter have been for the Dana 44-6CF in '66? What two numbers would have stood for 4.10's(if available)?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Here's the warranty plate from my red truck.



This one has the open rear like yours.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Here's the warranty plate from my red truck.



This one has the open rear like yours.
Thanks

I wonder if Marti's plate has the number lined up with the headings better?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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I know this is an old thread, but I have kept putting off getting a warranty plate.

As I was scrounging around my grandma's shop. I ran across two GVW stickers that pickups were supposed to have on them back in the day. I asked Grandma what they were for, and she said "That old Ford right there" (pointing to my/her truck).

Anyhow, the stickers say "GVW 7700". This makes me think that the GVW on the warranty plate should be 7700. Was this an option? Does it change anything besides the GVW rating?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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I have the salesmans facts book now and it covers the '66 F250. I'll see what it says when I get a chance later on. Not that it is the only source for the info....
 
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