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Dec 27, 2012 | 12:30 PM

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carlyoung

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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis

No. The mounts, the things that bolt to the engine, are different. But worse yet, the perches that bolt and rivet to the frame are different. And they can be fun getting off.

I don't suppose there is an adaptor that allows use of the current perch either.

Is there a part number for the replacement perches? a recommended supplier for the parts?

Dec 27, 2012 | 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by carlyoung

I don't suppose there is an adaptor that allows use of the current perch either.

Is there a part number for the replacement perches? a recommended supplier for the parts?

I don't know of an adapter, but any such thing would probably raise the engine too far. As for a source, the salvage is basically it. Or, better yet, buy a truck with the engine you want and use all of the components to swap to yours.

Dec 27, 2012 | 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carlyoung

I don't suppose there is an adaptor that allows use of the current perch either.

Might ask the guys here:

460 Ford Forum

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Originally Posted by carlyoung

Is there a part number for the replacement perches? a recommended supplier for the parts?

E3TZ-6028-C BRACKET (FRONT SUPPORT) R.H.
Fits 1983/ F250/350 and 1988/ F(SuperDuty) with 460 engine

Green Sales Company CINCINNATI, OH 45237 has 3 of them.

E8TZ-6029-B BRACKET (FRONT SUPPORT) L.H.
Fits the same as above

Cartwright Ford Inc. (Booneville, MS) has 1

EDIT: There are also various insulators (6038, 6068) and such shown with the 460 support stuff, no idea about those.

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Dec 27, 2012 | 01:56 PM

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Jeff's Bronco Graveyard has swap mounts for putting a 460 into 351M/400 perches.

Extreme Duty 460 Motor Mounts

Edit to add; Im pretty sure L&M make some too, but I'm
Not going to look it up on my phone

Dec 27, 2012 | 02:22 PM

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I will check them too. had forgotten about L&M.

Jeff's has these: 460 Motor Mounts for 351m/400 trucks

Dec 27, 2012 | 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ctubutis

Thank you for the clarification!

My thoughts when I first saw that... different spline counts on different transmissions... my thoughts were, wouldn't that mean there were different crankshafts used to accommodate the different input shafts? Yet, I don't recall ever hearing about or having seen any discussions on X-splined cranks as opposed to Y-splined cranks....

The spline fits the friction disc of the clutch.
There are different discs (as discussed in Gary's ZF swap thread)

There is a pilot bearing in the back of the crank,. but it is obviously not splined.

Dec 27, 2012 | 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by carlyoung

I will check them too. had forgotten about L&M.

Jeff's has these: 460 Motor Mounts for 351m/400 trucks

I don't understand the frame spacers... unless you're meant to weld that trapezoid onto your existing perches.

I see now that the ones I linked are for '70's trucks and much more heavy duty.
But I'm not sure what the difference in perches could be, because the engine block remained the same.