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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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problems after reinstall engine.

I have just finished changing head gasket.
I started up the engine works fine. But I hear a little clik sound form the converter. I put it in gear, but it can't move either forward or backward.
It ran 2-3 liters of oil out of the converter when I took the engine out. I have filled new oil in the gearbox but not in the converter, dosnt it came form the gearbox into the converter?
Is there air in the converter or what's wrong?

it is a F150 4x4 4.6 1997 automatic.

Please help.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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yes, the transmission oil fills the converter also.. Total is 13 quarts (11-12 liter).. Is it full ?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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yes it's full.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Are you sure the torque converter was engaged into the pump?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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I've found filling through the trans dipstick filler tube you have to wait awhile for the fluid to settle away from the tube and reading portion of the stick or I get false readings on stick. I run engine, shift through all gear selections, back to park and leave running. I insert and remove dipstick rather quickly to help keep residual fluid in tube from skewing reading. I read both sides of the dipstick. The side of the stick with the lowest reading should be the actual level in the trans. I fill to cold crosshatch marks only then test drive, to heat trans fluid to operating temp and adjust to hot crosshatch readings.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vaper
Are you sure the torque converter was engaged into the pump?
I do not know which axle is what has 2 axles in each other that stuck out of the gearbox.
Can one axle be pushing into the gearbox when you collect engine and gearbox if they hit a rong angle to each other?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mmortensen
I do not know which axle is what has 2 axles in each other that stuck out of the gearbox.
Can one axle be pushing into the gearbox when you collect engine and gearbox if they hit a rong angle to each other?
Where the torque converter slides into the transmission
When the bell housing/engine bolts are tight you should be able to move the converter some( before installing the flexplate to torque converter fasteners).
If you can't move it the converter pump drive is not engaged into the transmission pump and is jamming.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Hey Mort, better start over on this thread.
You changed head gasket.
How did we get to the trasnsmission from there, then to axles?
Why did you drain the trans or the tranfer case or whatever you did for changing a head gasket?
Did you remove the motor and or the transmission?
We need to have some sense of what you did to help, and you need to understand the replies or you won't get much help you can uses.
Help us help you.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vaper
Where the torque converter slides into the transmission
When the bell housing/engine bolts are tight you should be able to move the converter some( before installing the flexplate to torque converter fasteners).
If you can't move it the converter pump drive is not engaged into the transmission pump and is jamming.
what do I do if it is the case? Should I separate engine and gearbox again?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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I think he had the motor out Bluegrass
If you are not sure if the pump is engaged
loosen the torque to flex plate fasteners and check for play
if there is none we will go from there
Feel free to jump in Bluegrass,I respect your opinion
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrass 7
Hey Mort, better start over on this thread.
You changed head gasket.
How did we get to the trasnsmission from there, then to axles?
Why did you drain the trans or the tranfer case or whatever you did for changing a head gasket?
Did you remove the motor and or the transmission?
We need to have some sense of what you did to help, and you need to understand the replies or you won't get much help you can uses.
Help us help you.
I'm from Denmark and have little difficulty with the language.
I took the engine out to the car without gearbox.
labeled flywheel so I could line it up again.
When I pulled the engine out of the car it ran the oil out of the converter (2-3 liters).
installed new head gaskets and put the engine back in the car.
I had a little trouble getting it down again and so on with the gearbox.
as it went along there was finally 5mm space between the engine and gearbox.
I put the bolts in and tightened gently and overall just fine.
total rest of the car and refilled the gearbox.

but now it will not pull forward or backward, and ticking slightly from TC as if there is no oil in it.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mmortensen
I'm from Denmark and have little difficulty with the language.
I took the engine out to the car without gearbox.
labeled flywheel so I could line it up again.
When I pulled the engine out of the car it ran the oil out of the converter (2-3 liters).
installed new head gaskets and put the engine back in the car.
I had a little trouble getting it down again and so on with the gearbox.
as it went along there was finally 5mm space between the engine and gearbox.
I put the bolts in and tightened gently and overall just fine.
total rest of the car and refilled the gearbox.

but now it will not pull forward or backward, and ticking slightly from TC as if there is no oil in it.
Did you install the engine with the torque converter bolted to the
flex plate or was it in the transmission?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vaper
Did you install the engine with the torque converter bolted to the
flex plate or was it in the transmission?
with the torque converter bolted to the
flex plate. entire hole TC sat on the engine when I put the engine back in the car. I have not touched the TC.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Mort, when you do this, the motor must set fully against the transmission bell housing and converter lined up and seated into the flywheel as seen from the bottom.
Do not 'pull' things togather with the mounting bolts.
If you see this condition you have a problem you have to find.
You will have to pull motor again to get the converter in properly.
The converter has to engage the front pump.
If it does not, the vehichle cannot be move through the transmission in either direction.
I know it's a lot of work but there is no other way.
Good luck.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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No, you can't ever be sure it will line up doing it that way.
You have to put the converter in first, and be sure it sets in place then put motor in place.
Got to come back apart.
 
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