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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Unhappy 6.0 has intermittent starting

My 6.0 has intermittent starting. Ford said all components are O.K. It was starting at the time. Went home and about 1/2 hour later, cranks - won't start. Two hours later, started right up - 4 times in a row. I have replaced the FICM, FICM harness, glow plug controller, PCM power relay. This problem has been going on for months. No codes in the PCM. Never had codes in the PCM even when it was missing with the bad FICM. When I go to start it, starting is like a crap shoot. I cannot take it anywhere with confidence. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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My 6.0 has intermittent starting. Ford said all components are O.K. It was starting at the time. Went home and about 1/2 hour later, cranks - won't start. Two hours later, started right up - 4 times in a row. I have replaced the FICM, FICM harness, glow plug controller, PCM power relay. This problem has been going on for months. No codes in the PCM. Never had codes in the PCM even when it was missing with the bad FICM. When I go to start it, starting is like a crap shoot. I cannot take it anywhere with confidence. Any suggestions?
How many miles on it? My 04 SD had a starting problem and it was leaking injectors, and fuel was getting into the oil. My truck has 168K mi, and the shop said that the life limit on the injectors is generally between 160-200K mi on the 6.0. It was probably not all of them leaking, but I had the shop go ahead and put all new injectors and it now starts and runs like a scalded goat...
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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I have 109K miles on it. No fuel in oil. Ford said the injectors are good. They drained the fuel and put new filters in it. i think they just wanted to find something. I think that when it is running, everything checks out. Is there any connections, relays I should check? Are there any sensors that when fail will make a no start. I runs until I turn the key off. Never just stops running.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I had an 06 6.0 that did the same thing hot, once it cooled down it would start fine. You will have to excuse my bad memory but I think it was the high pressure oil rail that was leaking enough pressure while hot tha it wouldn't let the injectors fire, once the truck cooled off the oil becomes thick enough to fire the injectors then it will start.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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The truck was all warmed up when I took it to the Ford dealer. They checked the injectors and all were firing per specs. It ran fine until the evening - many starts. Then did not start. A while later it started. Next morning I drove it to Tahoe from Monerey. Two stops. Started fine. Got to Tahoe and parked in neighbor's driveway so I could plow mine. After I plowed my driveway with snow blower, I went to start it. Would not start. many tries. After 2-3 hours it started fine and I brought it to my driveway. Started it four times great.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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check Stand pipes in the high pressure oil rail. pretty easy to check. just pull one of the valve covers and use a 10 or 12 mm allen wrench to remove the front pipe. chances are the o ring is partly missing.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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I replaced the head gaskets and installed new pipes and O-rings in Feb when I replaced the oil cooler, egr and egr valve. Would this account for the sporadic hot and cold no start?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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I was informed that it might be the ICP sensor. Where is this sensor? I was told to unplug the sensor when it does not start and see if it starts. I will try it tomarrow if I can find the sensor.
 
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right next to the glow plug relay
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:51 PM
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I believe the glow plug relay is on the right valve cover. I will check tomarrow if I can get it to "no start" and will let you know.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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Smile Starting fine now!!!

The truck is now starting fine. When I got a "no start" condition, I unplugged the wires to the ICP sensor on the right valve cover next to the glow plug controller. I then started the truck and it started right up. This sensor tells the CPM the amount of fuel to inject based upon pressure. Without this hooked up, the CPM will use a default pressure in its calculations. With a faulty sensor, the injectors were not firing correctly.
Thank you for all your help in resolving this intermittent problem.
 
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