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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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Heater blower issues

Driving across country my blower would sometimes work......sometimes not. Got home and ordered a new vacuum selector with the 8 vacuum lines on the back which controls the blower on/off, vent, a/c, hi/lo heat and defrost.

Got that in yesterday and now the blower only turns on in the a/c position. The truck has the option for a/c but actually does not have it.

The blower speed is also screwed up. Instead of it working like it should:
-high
-medium high
-medium low
-low

it now goes:
-medium high
-high
-low
-low


The low setting and med-low have the same air flow output. Click it to med-high and that has more air out put than on the high position.
Fan switch i'm assuming. But running out of funds to keep playing the guessing game.

thanks for any input
-matt
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Have you checked the resistor? I believe its on the back side (engine bay) of the cover. The will get green and brittle. Then you will get symtoms like you are having now.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the response. I looked most of the morning for it and can't find it. From my research it says there are 4 wires going to it and it should be along the orange wire for the blower somewhere. But looking at the resistor pic from autozone, it looks like there is only 3 wires.
Electrical is not my strong suit
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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Sounds like you have the Hi-Lo heating, that's basically factory A/C without the A/C part. It has the big evaporator housing under the hood, in-dash vents, etc.
The resistor is mounted in the plenum chamber that sits on top of the transmission tunnel, it's inside the cab. The resistor has two plastic rivets that hold it in place.
You can visually check the resistor to see if it's bad.
There are three wire coils, check to see if any of the coils are broken. If they are, the resistor is bad.
In the first picture, the resistor is behind the black wire, this picture was taken through the glove box with the liner removed.
It's hard to tell, but in the third picture, the middle coil is burned through so this resistor is bad.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Are you sure nothing else got moved around? The selector switch only interrupts 12 volts to the circuit. The fan speed switch and resistor are downstream. They should not be related unless there's something else going on. For this to have shown up after the selector was changed, either something else had to have gotten moved, or it's coincidence. I'm betting on the former.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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thanks for the pics mike!! that was a huge help!

Just got it out of there and all 3 coils are intact.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Sounds to me like you have soemthing loose on your vent selector, or internally the little contacts are not contacting. I had a similar issue on mine, finally i tore it apart one day and just kinda figured things out and got it working.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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just put my old vent/vacuum selector in and same issue. The fan only turns on in the a/c position.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Fixed!
it was the blower motor relay.
tested by taking the din off the relay and then jumped the orange to red/black. Boom! Got all the fan speeds back to normal and all vent selections working.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PAwhiteboy
Fixed!
it was the blower motor relay.
tested by taking the din off the relay and then jumped the orange to red/black. Boom! Got all the fan speeds back to normal and all vent selections working.
Glad you got it fixed, thanks for the update .
 
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PAwhiteboy
Fixed!
it was the blower motor relay.
tested by taking the din off the relay and then jumped the orange to red/black. Boom! Got all the fan speeds back to normal and all vent selections working.
Awesome. Good news. thanks for the update
 
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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i jumped the gun saying it was fixed! New blower motor relay came in today and i just put it on. Still have same issue! Jump those wires in the din with the relay off and everything works. Always something!
Any ideas??
 
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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i jumped the gun saying it was fixed! New blower motor relay came in today and i just put it on. Still have same issue! Jump those wires in the din with the relay off and everything works. Always something!
Any ideas??
If you're good at reading wiring schematics go here: 1973-1979 Ford Truck Wiring Diagrams & Schematics - FORDification.net for copies of the factory diagrams. On the '76 trucks you want page 4, upper LH corner.
You're saying when you bypass the relay everything works okay, correct?
The blower is powered through that relay. It gets it's power from the bat side of the starter solenoid, but the relay is controled by the A/C mode switch which is a fused circuit.
First, I would check fuse F1 (30 amp) and see if its good. If it is, then I would unplug the relay and, with the A/C system turned on, check for 12 volts at the yellow w/ red trace wire.
Report back on what you find.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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awesome link mike!!
The relay was not grounding. Had to take some paint off of the dash and bam! Rock and rollin now!!
thanks for the help!

matt
 
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Glad you got it fixed (X2) hope it "sticks this time
 
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