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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Finding Correct Speedo Gear

So I was trying to Follow Garys lead on this thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nion-gear.html

But I couldn't find my original tire listed in the master parts catalog, all the listings were for 16.5 not 16's

These are for the 4.10 out of the parts catalog






Still Running 235/85/R16's

Heres my sticker


So I got the original tires, I got a 4.10 rear ratio, and a T-19 4-speed warner transmission. Should be pretty easy, but we all know how that goes.

Thanks Again,
Devin
 
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 07:14 AM
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Nevermind, I took it apart, and it was kind of a pink, and It seemed to be in fine condition, I spun it with my drill and worked great, although I had to spin the drill counter-clockwise to get it to spin, is this right?
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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I'm a little lost as to the original question, but the answer to the question in the second post is "yes".

So, do you have another question or did you answer it yourself?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Yes I did answer my own question, and yes I figured out the counter clockwise bit.

The bad is that after hooking back up I still have no speedo

Anyway according to what I have read, the drive gear is the next step?

How do I find a part number on that ? is it actually called drive gear?

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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Three places to focus on. The gear that's in the transmission or transfer case, the gear that's on the end of the speedometer cable, and the gears inside of the instrument cluster.

If you pull the cable and gear out, you should be able to look in and see the gear inside the transfer case or transmission that drives the cable. This is the drive gear. The gear on the end of the cable is the driven gear. Then you've got the speedometer gears in the cluster.

If the gear on the cable and in the hole looks good, then you might want to check out the gears in the instrument cluster.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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The drive gear rarely goes bad, and changing it isn't easy. You should be able to see it through the hole the driven gear goes through.

Did the speedo work originally and quit? Or, was it not working when you bought the truck? If the latter, you may have the wrong speedo gear, as in one for another typ of transmission. Are there any numbers on it?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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IIRC, he said the speedometer jumps a lot when he's driving. In which case, the cable may be defective.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Yes, it never worked when I got the truck.

I will pull it apart again and post

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IIRC, he said the speedometer jumps a lot when he's driving. In which case, the cable may be defective.
nope no movement at all while driving
 
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actually according by what I gave you can you post the correct part number and color?

I will order one tonight if needed, I need a few things from rockauto anyway, Ill see if they have it
 
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I know one guy that tried a speedo gear out of a 4-speed manual tranny in his C6. It chewed the gear up as it was too long. So, it would stand to reason that the wrong gear could be too short and not even engage the drive gear.
 
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Originally Posted by dtgl90vt
actually according by what I gave you can you post the correct part number and color?

I will order one tonight if needed, I need a few things from rockauto anyway, Ill see if they have it
Ok, I'll go back and see what tires and tranny you have. I remember 4.11's - right?
 
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Maybe you'd better tell me the tranny just to make sure.

Edit: Just found it - T-19
 
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Transmission code - P = T-19

Also let me know how you find it, I would like to be able to do it on my own, hate to bother people over simple stuff and seem needy and lazy

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Originally Posted by dtgl90vt
So I was trying to Follow Garys lead on this thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nion-gear.html

But I couldn't find my original tire listed in the master parts catalog, all the listings were for 16.5 not 16's

These are for the 4.10 out of the parts catalog






Still Running 235/85/R16's

Heres my sticker


So I got the original tires, I got a 4.10 rear ratio, and a T-19 4-speed warner transmission. Should be pretty easy, but we all know how that goes.

Thanks Again,
Devin
Ok, here goes: From the first of the two shots you posted you can see that a 7.50 x 16 tire is one of the options. I went to TireRack's site and looked up that tire, although you have to tell it "none" for the center #, which is the aspect ratio. There I found that one of the tires they sell in that size is 31.5" in diameter and the other is 32.0" in diameter. Then I did the same thing for a 235/85x16 and found the tire is 31.7" in diameter, which is right in the middle of the other size so can use the same speedo driven gear. And, that gear is D0TZ 17285-A C0DD 17271-A, as shown in that first pic. From another page I can tell that is a Type 2A gear with 16 teeth. Hope that helps.
 
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