Confirm puking causes
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Confirm puking causes
Just want to confirm that there are only two primary causes for puking: oil cooler/egr cooler and blown headgaskets, correct?
Oil and EGR coolers were replaced 25k miles ago per OASIS report, and deltas are between 7-9. No oil visible in the coolant, but it just started puking this morning. Had it running in high idle in my driveway to warm up and when I came out there was coolant all over the ground under it, and it had been puking from the cap. Released pressure, level still okay, so drove to town and back, more evidence of puking when I got back (dried white powder).
Truck's going to the dealer on Wednesday for new alternator and FICM under warranty and they're going to test the injectors too to make sure they didn't get damaged by the FICM. I'll have them find and fix the puking problem also. Dealer is about 90 minutes away. You recommend I have it towed since it's now puking or should I go ahead and drive it in since it's under warranty?
Oil and EGR coolers were replaced 25k miles ago per OASIS report, and deltas are between 7-9. No oil visible in the coolant, but it just started puking this morning. Had it running in high idle in my driveway to warm up and when I came out there was coolant all over the ground under it, and it had been puking from the cap. Released pressure, level still okay, so drove to town and back, more evidence of puking when I got back (dried white powder).
Truck's going to the dealer on Wednesday for new alternator and FICM under warranty and they're going to test the injectors too to make sure they didn't get damaged by the FICM. I'll have them find and fix the puking problem also. Dealer is about 90 minutes away. You recommend I have it towed since it's now puking or should I go ahead and drive it in since it's under warranty?
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A couple of other things it could be are a bad degas bottle cap or maybe the degas bottle was too full. I thought the main cause of puking with a head gasket were when the engine was under high load. How much coolant was left in the degas bottle after she puked on ya?
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Well, when I bought the truck the degas bottle was filled to the full line, not the min line. Chalk it up to a dealer who didn't know what they were doing with these trucks. I never drained it back down to the min line (planning a full flush with new t-stat and coolant filter this week) but my 5 hour drive home from the dealer (up and over 13,000 feet at the continental divide) and a 90 minute drive last week with a 5000lb trailer never caused it to puke. This morning was the first time its done it to me. I should also mention that this morning when I noticed it, the cap was loose. Tightened it up but it kept puking (i think)... Now that I think about it, it's possible the white residue I saw came from the initial puke with a loose cap and not subsequent puking. Just seemed like there was more white residue the second time I looked at it than there had been fluid the first time. I'll clean it off and run it this afternoon for a while and see if it reappears.
ECT was about 176 and EOT was about 184 when it happened the first time, and ECT built to about 186 with an EOT of about 192 today (low ECT is why I'm replacing the t-stat this week).
ECT was about 176 and EOT was about 184 when it happened the first time, and ECT built to about 186 with an EOT of about 192 today (low ECT is why I'm replacing the t-stat this week).
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I would say it was puking cause it was too full and cap loose, the fact that it did it while idling doesn't seem like a high pressure situation as the turbo vanes are completely relaxed, I think it will continue to puke until the degas bottle gets to the proper level then it should be ok
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My truck will puke if the degas bottle is not at the right level, it has only done it to me twice, and both times are right after messing with the levels when I added some after doing work
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Yeah Josh, that thought crosses my mind every now and then, but then I remind myself that now I have a full rear bench seat so room for two baby seats, plus I now have a full after-market warranty that will cover any repair to anything other than paint, batteries, or tires over $250... Then I'm happy with my decision to trade it in on this one. :-)
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Not sure if your 06 had the same recall as my 05 but the original minimum line on my 05 was changed to a lower level by recall...
Also, I am under the impression that once you overfill and puke coolant from the degas cap, that the cap is likely wasted too and should be changed. So I've been told.
Also, I am under the impression that once you overfill and puke coolant from the degas cap, that the cap is likely wasted too and should be changed. So I've been told.
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Miner, altitude difference is a couple thousand feet, but it was overfull at the dealer... I checked all fluids before I bought the truck and noticed it then. What surprised me is that I've been driving the truck for over a week and it didn't puke till today. I was parked nose up on a fairly steep slope, though, in high idle. Would nose up result in more fluid being in the degas bottle than level or nose down? Cause that was the first time I had parked it nose up in high idle...
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Not sure if your 06 had the same recall as my 05 but the original minimum line on my 05 was changed to a lower level by recall...
Also, I am under the impression that once you overfill and puke coolant from the degas cap, that the cap is likely wasted too and should be changed. So I've been told.
Also, I am under the impression that once you overfill and puke coolant from the degas cap, that the cap is likely wasted too and should be changed. So I've been told.
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Right... It was filled to the old max line... I will have the shop check for everything possible to cause it, and if it all checks out, just assume it was overfilled. Would have my full flush done by the end of the week.
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