Cold wether operation
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Fleet Owner
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From: Spanaway
Cold wether operation
Ok during most of the year I use Ford diesel cetane booster.
As it cools off and switch to Ford diesel anti-gel do I just
switch or do I still add the Ford diesel cetane booster?
Sean
As it cools off and switch to Ford diesel anti-gel do I just
switch or do I still add the Ford diesel cetane booster?
Sean
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From: Calgary, Alberta
If I remember correctly I do believe the anti gel formula will have a cetane addivitve. It has been I while since I used it and now use Diesel Kleen as it is cheaper than the Ford additive and has worked well in my truck.
I just seen your location. If you are in the Settle area I don't think you need it, it never gets that cold there. Now if your going to areas that are -10 to -40 then by all means put it in. I would check and see if the fuel distributors in the Seattle area go to a winter formula, if they do I would just stick to the cetane additive. On the other hand it cant hurt either way.
I just seen your location. If you are in the Settle area I don't think you need it, it never gets that cold there. Now if your going to areas that are -10 to -40 then by all means put it in. I would check and see if the fuel distributors in the Seattle area go to a winter formula, if they do I would just stick to the cetane additive. On the other hand it cant hurt either way.
Last edited by gunnarGSD; Oct 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM. Reason: seen location
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From: Spanaway
Thanks,
The guys at the parts counter were not sure if they both would improve the
cetane or not. That is why I ask. SOme one also said that Diesel Kleen
really has a bad smell if it leaks. The PM-22a has a smell but not too bad.
I every now and then get up into the higher elevations where it's cold.
But normally we see low 30. When we get hit it gets down in the teens.
I guess I can't hurt it be over treating just eats up more $$.
Sean
The guys at the parts counter were not sure if they both would improve the
cetane or not. That is why I ask. SOme one also said that Diesel Kleen
really has a bad smell if it leaks. The PM-22a has a smell but not too bad.
I every now and then get up into the higher elevations where it's cold.
But normally we see low 30. When we get hit it gets down in the teens.
I guess I can't hurt it be over treating just eats up more $$.
Sean
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From: Spanaway
The nearest truck stop is about 20 miles away. The local
places where I get fuel all have just a bit more than a
burger flipper selling the fuel. You know the chick under glass.
Ok so that was bad. But 9 times out of 10 it is a woman and
she is standing behind a safety window and really does not
know a gas pump from a diesel. And knows even less about
what is in the fuel at any given time. AND if it's a guy so
as to not look stupid they will BS you.
Sean
places where I get fuel all have just a bit more than a
burger flipper selling the fuel. You know the chick under glass.
Ok so that was bad. But 9 times out of 10 it is a woman and
she is standing behind a safety window and really does not
know a gas pump from a diesel. And knows even less about
what is in the fuel at any given time. AND if it's a guy so
as to not look stupid they will BS you.
Sean
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From: West Cornwall, CT
I learned that you cannot really trust that the fuel you buy is adequately treated for really cold weather.
Two years ago it got to -20 degrees F one night. The truck started and ran for 5 minutes. My fuel filter was totally full of jelly. A replacement filter instantly jelled up.
I ended up pumping the contents of the fuel tank into 5 gallon containers and adding replacement diesel that was warm. I also used a portable propane heater to warm the filter housing and the tank.
With warmed, treated diesel and a new filter, everything worked OK. The worst thing about this was that one of my friends (who owns a gasser) was giving me sage advice and basically enjoyed the show.
Lesson learned. Add anti-gel whenever you think it may get really cold.
Lou Braun
PS: My tractor also jelled up solid on the same day.
Two years ago it got to -20 degrees F one night. The truck started and ran for 5 minutes. My fuel filter was totally full of jelly. A replacement filter instantly jelled up.
I ended up pumping the contents of the fuel tank into 5 gallon containers and adding replacement diesel that was warm. I also used a portable propane heater to warm the filter housing and the tank.
With warmed, treated diesel and a new filter, everything worked OK. The worst thing about this was that one of my friends (who owns a gasser) was giving me sage advice and basically enjoyed the show.
Lesson learned. Add anti-gel whenever you think it may get really cold.
Lou Braun
PS: My tractor also jelled up solid on the same day.
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The ford anti gel is also a cetane booster. The rule you buy will be blended for the appropriate temps, but treating it adds extra protection because of you don't use it in the next week and the temps dip, you get gelling. If I am going north I treat with anti gel. Never gelled up so far, but they switch over the fuel pretty good up here.
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The ford anti gel is also a cetane booster. The rule you buy will be blended for the appropriate temps, but treating it adds extra protection because of you don't use it in the next week and the temps dip, you get gelling. If I am going north I treat with anti gel. Never gelled up so far, but they switch over the fuel pretty good up here.
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A bit of advice to those who treat your fuel, the anti-gel has to be added to the fuel optimally at 40f for it to work properly.
As long as your fuel source is underground this shouldn't be an issue, but to those of you who fill-up and wait to add the additive when you get home you're just wasting money and not receiving any beneficial winter protection.
As long as your fuel source is underground this shouldn't be an issue, but to those of you who fill-up and wait to add the additive when you get home you're just wasting money and not receiving any beneficial winter protection.
