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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Can anyone explain the reasoning for pointing ccv outlet toward the filter? I can understand there being a slight vacuum but there's still an air flow in the opposing direction.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Diesel
Wow that happend to you? Mine has had ZERO problems in well over 150,000 miles routed to the exhaust..

Most people who bad mouth this mod have not actually done it. They just parrot it like it is true.
To each his own in the land of fruits and nuts. Mine is atmosphere. Good luck.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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I ran mine down to the frame rail to a cannister with media inside then back up into the intake. The system is still closed like factory. I put a drain on the cannister. There is someone selling a kit like this but you can make a better one cheaper. Some say oil mist will still make it back into the intake, but if it does I think it will be greatly reduced.

Here is is mounted next to my pre pump fuel filter

 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Horseyfella
Can anyone explain the reasoning for pointing ccv outlet toward the filter? I can understand there being a slight vacuum but there's still an air flow in the opposing direction.
I'll take a stab at that, because I've been wondering about it myself. I was thinking maybe the idea was to discourage fluid from being sucked up, while still allowing vapor? Just a guess.

One thing I need to do is find something better to cap mine off with. Right now I have a vinyl cap on the outside, secured with a tie-wrap. Inevitably that thing will crumble, and I don't want pieces of it hitting my turbo.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bigb56
I ran mine down to the frame rail to a cannister with media inside then back up into the intake. The system is still closed like factory. I put a drain on the cannister. There is someone selling a kit like this but you can make a better one cheaper. Some say oil mist will still make it back into the intake, but if it does I think it will be greatly reduced.

Here is is mounted next to my pre pump fuel filter


Nice setup. What did you use for the brackets? Clamp for the ccv can?
Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by trekbasso
Nice setup. What did you use for the brackets? Clamp for the ccv can?
Thanks.
The bracket is just part of a ceiling fan support with a 3" conduit hanger (Mineralac) welded to it for the cannister. All the fittings came from Ace.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Okay, thanks.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by trekbasso
Okay, thanks.
You could just use a piece of 1/8" angle and drill a hole for the conduit hanger and a couple more to bolt it to the frame. The conduit hanger has a nice recess in it for a bolt head


 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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I initially used a muffler/exhaust pipe hanger, one with the thick rubber fabric mounting to hang mine, but plan on redoing it when I do a better pre-pump filter.
I have some 4x4 aluminum angle, just a matter of getting around to it.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1954oldred
Vent it to the atmosphere and be done with it...what is the big dilemma ?
It smokes and STINKS like a nasty old diesel truck. I know I read some people 'never notice' this - but mine was disgusting, especially on a cool, damp morning before the truck was up to operating temp. Even fully warm and on a hot day, it still smelled like sticking your nose under the valve cover. My truck is far from the show-truck Rick's is , but I found this to be more than I could take and went back to stock CCV.

Personally, I think all of the 'issues' from having some oil in the intake are way overblown. With good boots/clamps and no boost leaks - my engine stays almost as clean as Ricks (I actually drive my truck in the rain... ). I suppose there could be some additional wear on the compressor wheel, but after well over 300k miles (~200k making 30+ psi of boost) my stock charger had no significant wear.

Now, I did have a problem running AIS in front of my 38R with CCV hooked up. I could pull filter minder into the red at will and subsequently was using 2gals of oil or more between oil changes. My first trip with AIS on the F350 (38R and AC codes) was dragging the 12k lb Toy Hauler home from KS and I had to add 1.5 gals of oil in 1000mi - but I did have the hammer down for that trip (since I don't pay for my fuel/WVO, I don't always drive economically).
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BadDogKuzz
Bill if you going to do it via the exhaust that is the way I would do it, with the Moroso kit.

Now for you guys that don't have alot of experience with 'Positive Crank Case Pressure" when you are running a turbo, supercharger or Hi compression engine it VERY important to create a negative CCP or you can and will blow oil out the seals, dip stick tubes and valve covers. And I know some of you have just vented the ccv to atmosphere with no ill effect. Well then you have just been lucky. I myself have ALOT of experiences with Crank Case Pressure in the past with hot rods, turbo gasser and supercharged boats. So I don't mean to sound like Joe here but I do know what I am talking about when it comes to CCP.

Now I went at it a different way since with a turbo diesel you really don't run high rpms going to the exhaust will work but doing it that way works best with High rpm engines. I made a home made catch can with drain and I have good results with it. I used a clear hose to the intake to see what is making it past the catch can and it is working well.



Kuzz, how hard is it to drain? Or better yet, does this style of the CCV Mod allow the oil to gravity feed back into the doghouse? Would there be an issue of gravity feeding the condensed fluid back into the doghouse? Would this cut down on having to add oil between changes?

Final point/question: Is the fluid in the IC pipes simply engine oil? Looking at it, I would assume it is, but after thinking about it, the gasses could contain high amounts of impurities that are better off not returning back once they condense. Although, if we are getting such a large amount of fluid condensing out of the CCV, how much more is condensing inside the CC and returning on its own?

Sorry, i'm full of questions, but inquiring minds want to know lol... what are your guys' thoughts?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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bump, still wondering if there's anything wrong with letting the fluid drain back into the doghouse...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyt
Kuzz, how hard is it to drain? Or better yet, does this style of the CCV Mod allow the oil to gravity feed back into the doghouse? Would there be an issue of gravity feeding the condensed fluid back into the doghouse? Would this cut down on having to add oil between changes?

Final point/question: Is the fluid in the IC pipes simply engine oil? Looking at it, I would assume it is, but after thinking about it, the gasses could contain high amounts of impurities that are better off not returning back once they condense. Although, if we are getting such a large amount of fluid condensing out of the CCV, how much more is condensing inside the CC and returning on its own?

Sorry, i'm full of questions, but inquiring minds want to know lol... what are your guys' thoughts?
Hello Jeff I am sorry I some how missed this post but thanks to the bump I seen your questions which are very good questions.

When I was trying to come up with an idea of how I was going to make a CCV catch can set up I had also wanted it to be able to drain back into the CCV in the case of the can being full. I am not sure it I am getting that effect but I did mount the catch can up high enough that the lower hose could have that effect if it ever had more than 6-8oz in it. My catch can will only hold about that much. Now as far as draining I have a valve on the bottom and it has a 1/8 compression fitting on the end. One of these days I am going to bend up some new brake line and run it down under the frame. But for now I just put a cup up under it when I open the valve. I average about 1oz of oil every 3k miles and close to 2oz with heavy highway and towing per 3k. Now with that said I see no merit to letting it get so full that it would run back into the doghouse, besides the catch can I built I don't think it would work well if it was full. It would then allow alot of oil to blow back into the intake. Now a nice fancy store bought one might be able to just do that since the nice ones use baffles in stead of scrubby pads.

And yes the fluid in the IC pipes is engine oil. It just had to get there in a vapor form then when all the vapors get there in one place it is still oil. Now personally I think the stock set up is a good idea but poorly under engineered by Ford. They thought the doghouse would act as a catch can and then drain back into the valve cover which it does but doesn't work well when the doghouse never gets cleaned. A clogged dog house also can cause positive crank case pressure when vented straight out.

So no matter which way you go at it just clean the dog house out regularly and you won't have a problem.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Thanks for the info, I'll get started on it next week and let everyone know what I decide...
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Just be careful when removing the dog house. The o-rings will drop into the black hole that swallows all things.
 
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