Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Problem- I need brakes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 01:31 PM
  #1  
56panelford's Avatar
56panelford
Thread Starter
|
FTE Legend
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 281,873
Likes: 7,844
From: northwestern Ontario
Problem- I need brakes

I'm trying to get my brakes blead. I purchased everything new about 5 years ago. I bench blead the master cylinder, hooked up to the lines and opened the bleeder on the right rear wheel and pumped and pumped and can't get any fluid to the wheel. Checked the proportioning valve to make sure it was centered, checks okay. Still nothing. Disconected the line at the proportioning valve and had the wife pump pedal, there is fluid. How much pressure should there be here. I don't have the truck running yet as it isn't wired yet. I would like to have brakes so when I unload it off the trailer at the muffler shop I can control the roll. Can anyone offer some help because I need it.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 02:38 PM
  #2  
imabaka's Avatar
imabaka
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 289
Likes: 0
From: North Platte NE
If you just opened the bleeder and pump the pedal by your self you are sucking air back into the system bleeding brakes with the pedal reallly is a two person job. Also if its all brand new lines and such it can seem like for ever to get fluid back there.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 05:13 PM
  #3  
56panelford's Avatar
56panelford
Thread Starter
|
FTE Legend
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 281,873
Likes: 7,844
From: northwestern Ontario
I have a bleeder tube with a check valve that is supposed to make it a one man operation and I have tried doing it with the wife pumping then holding the pedal down while I open and close the bleeder with no luck. I have ordered a new kit with a vacuum pump.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:27 PM
  #4  
WARDNEAL's Avatar
WARDNEAL
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Hays Kansas
Did you put new rubber hoses on?
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:28 PM
  #5  
arctic y block's Avatar
arctic y block
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,325
Likes: 14
From: Island Southeast Alaska
Rent or borrow a pressure bleeder if ya got an air compressor. It really does take Murphy of Murphys Law out of the picture.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:49 PM
  #6  
fordman75's Avatar
fordman75
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,271
Likes: 46
From: South central, Minnesota
Any chance you've got something that could have plugged up a line?

If you have fluid at the proportioning valve outlet then I'd pull the line at the rear wheel cylinder or caliper where you aren't getting any fluid at the bleeder. If you are getting fluid then you might have a blockage in the wheel cylinder/caliper.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:12 PM
  #7  
jb50F1's Avatar
jb50F1
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 230
Likes: 5
From: Northern Virginia
I had a similar problem with front brakes. The question about replacing the rubber hoses was on target. My flex hose had collapsed internally and no fluid could pass. Pull that rubber hose and see if that is the problem,
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2012 | 01:47 AM
  #8  
1oldtimer's Avatar
1oldtimer
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 751
Likes: 1
From: orange county, ca.
keep pumping, it will sometimes take awhile with new lines. What I do is kind of a waste of fluid but it works with 1 person. Get a glass jar (small mayo or something), fill 1/4 to 1/2 full with new brake fluid, get a clear plastic tube and hook it to bleeder, put the other end in the fluid, open the bleeder and slowly pump the pedal. You need to check the master level A LOT so it won't run dry. Once you get fluid to all the wheels you get another person and bleed the system regular style.
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2012 | 08:38 AM
  #9  
WARDNEAL's Avatar
WARDNEAL
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Hays Kansas
Just finished my brakes 49 F1 original brakes with new parts.

Does the petal go to the floor?

If yes it has a leak, could be a hole in line or just the bleeder being open or bad master cylinder look for fluid leak.

If it is hard as a rock and will only go down a little bit you have a blockage or your brakes are hard against the drums or bad master cylinder.

My last problem was bad rubber hose and one new wheel cylinder was leaking.
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:21 AM
  #10  
56panelford's Avatar
56panelford
Thread Starter
|
FTE Legend
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 281,873
Likes: 7,844
From: northwestern Ontario
Originally Posted by fordman75
Any chance you've got something that could have plugged up a line?

If you have fluid at the proportioning valve outlet then I'd pull the line at the rear wheel cylinder or caliper where you aren't getting any fluid at the bleeder. If you are getting fluid then you might have a blockage in the wheel cylinder/caliper.

I'll try this approach by removing the line and attaching my bleeder hose directly to it to see if that's the problem, if not I'll continue forward. Do you know how much fluid should squirt out with a pump of the pedal?
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:22 AM
  #11  
56panelford's Avatar
56panelford
Thread Starter
|
FTE Legend
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 281,873
Likes: 7,844
From: northwestern Ontario
Originally Posted by 56panelford
I'll try this approach by removing the line and attaching my bleeder hose directly to it to see if that's the problem, if not I'll continue forward. Do you know how much fluid should squirt out with a pump of the pedal?
Originally Posted by WARDNEAL
Did you put new rubber hoses on?
Yes, the whole system is new front to back right from the pedal

P.S. obviously I don't know how to multi quote,lol
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:34 AM
  #12  
56panelford's Avatar
56panelford
Thread Starter
|
FTE Legend
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 281,873
Likes: 7,844
From: northwestern Ontario
Hello again, I finally got the brakes working. The unit it was from CPP and the problem was the rod on the booster was too short and not making contact with the master cylinder, once this was figured out we had the brakes bleed in 15 minutes. Phoned CPP and told them I bought the unit 5 years ago but just getting it ready to hit the road, they said the part would be in the mail the next day meanwhile I have a piece of hardwood dowel doing the job so I can safely load and unload onto a trailer.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2012 | 10:39 AM
  #13  
BigPigDaddy's Avatar
BigPigDaddy
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,624
Likes: 6
From: OR and UT
Originally Posted by 56panelford
Phoned CPP and told them I bought the unit 5 years ago but just getting it ready to hit the road, they said the part would be in the mail the next day
That is awesome customer service! I had the same level of service, which is why I will continue to deal with them.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
can0fspam
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Mar 4, 2018 12:02 PM
DeereFord300
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Nov 29, 2016 07:40 PM
Don Vito
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
16
Oct 31, 2016 10:41 AM
alvald83
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Jul 3, 2012 01:10 PM
74fordtruck
Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires, & Wheels
13
Sep 25, 2005 11:39 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 PM.