Building A 460 - Much Help Needed!
Fleet Mechanic
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From: peru kansas
aluminum heads from edelbrock don't need a port and polish they are bad *** straight out of the box they are pretty sweet but they aren't cheap they are in the $1000 + range depends on how hot you wanna go
Fleet Mechanic
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From: peru kansas
i would't know how much it would cost to have them ported and polished i did it myself it cost me less than a $100 bill since i already had dremel tool just had some guidance from an old hot rodder/tranny builder/motor building/brother in laws dad/guru lol he taught me alot and all it took was time and patience
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Laughing Gas
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From: Southern Illinois
Then he gave me an idea of what I would need to match my 400-450hp goal. Real good guy.
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You are both correct & incorrect at the same time. The largest problem with the 385 series engine is exhaust breathing & it does start in the head. I have a set of C9VE-A heads on my engine & they can be taken up to somewhere between 650 & 850 hp. If you are building anything more serious than that then yes good aluminum heads would be in order but you can get good flow out of the correct casting numbered cast heads. You have to back that up with a free flowing exhaust (as free flowing as you can get). Bite the bullet & buy some headers with 1 7/8" primaries. Your pipe D. will depending on your hp output. Aluminum Edelbrock heads heads start at $680 each plus new pushrods & head bolts. They also state they are good for 550+ hp. I can do better than that with my cast heads.
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Laughing Gas
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From: Southern Illinois
I dont want to be close to 550HP. I plan on having long tube headers. The heads I like are the Performer RPM 460. Gonna match those with a RPM Air Gap 460 intake and a Thunder Series AVS 800 cfm carb. This is edelbrocks little "power package" but I had the carb and intake already suggested to me by mike0o0o0o
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From: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Two things.
Go to 460 forum and search 450 hp build and you will get information on what you need to do.
Be carful or you will go over your 450 hp target. It doesn't take much to get 450 hp out of these engines and it can be as simple as a timing set/cam/head/intake/carb combination and you will be there.
The problem happens when you don't plan on ending up at 650 hp and the components you used won't handle that much. It would be like deciding to use nitros after the fact but you didn't use forged pistons, it will be a mess.
I myself am shooting for 600 - 650 hp so I am using parts that will take the abuse.
I have a video at home that is very good. I will get the name of it when I get home and let you know.
Go to 460 forum and search 450 hp build and you will get information on what you need to do.
Be carful or you will go over your 450 hp target. It doesn't take much to get 450 hp out of these engines and it can be as simple as a timing set/cam/head/intake/carb combination and you will be there.
The problem happens when you don't plan on ending up at 650 hp and the components you used won't handle that much. It would be like deciding to use nitros after the fact but you didn't use forged pistons, it will be a mess.
I myself am shooting for 600 - 650 hp so I am using parts that will take the abuse.
I have a video at home that is very good. I will get the name of it when I get home and let you know.
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From: Alton, MO
Two things.
Go to 460 forum and search 450 hp build and you will get information on what you need to do.
Be carful or you will go over your 450 hp target. It doesn't take much to get 450 hp out of these engines and it can be as simple as a timing set/cam/head/intake/carb combination and you will be there.
The problem happens when you don't plan on ending up at 650 hp and the components you used won't handle that much. It would be like deciding to use nitros after the fact but you didn't use forged pistons, it will be a mess.
I myself am shooting for 600 - 650 hp so I am using parts that will take the abuse.
I have a video at home that is very good. I will get the name of it when I get home and let you know.
Go to 460 forum and search 450 hp build and you will get information on what you need to do.
Be carful or you will go over your 450 hp target. It doesn't take much to get 450 hp out of these engines and it can be as simple as a timing set/cam/head/intake/carb combination and you will be there.
The problem happens when you don't plan on ending up at 650 hp and the components you used won't handle that much. It would be like deciding to use nitros after the fact but you didn't use forged pistons, it will be a mess.
I myself am shooting for 600 - 650 hp so I am using parts that will take the abuse.
I have a video at home that is very good. I will get the name of it when I get home and let you know.
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From: Alton, MO
Well as has been said too many times the guys at 460.com will be able to tell you which aluminum heads you want. I know there is a set out there they say are worse than having the cast heads. Don't remember what heads they are. My cast heads will do what I want them to do.
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From: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Ya, saying you want aluminum heads is like saying you want a car. $1000 junker or $250,000 Lambo.
I am going with P51 heads. They will cost me about $2300 but they will allow me to hit my hp no problem.
When you say money isn't an option do you mean you have none or do you mean to say money is not an issue as in you have enough?
That video is "Building The HP 520 CDI Big Block Ford" by Wayne E Partridge Sr
www.idealknowhowtovideo.com
I think it was $30 but it is worth it. Even though it is for a stroker the premiss is the same for a normal 460
I am going with P51 heads. They will cost me about $2300 but they will allow me to hit my hp no problem.
When you say money isn't an option do you mean you have none or do you mean to say money is not an issue as in you have enough?
That video is "Building The HP 520 CDI Big Block Ford" by Wayne E Partridge Sr
www.idealknowhowtovideo.com
I think it was $30 but it is worth it. Even though it is for a stroker the premiss is the same for a normal 460
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Laughing Gas
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From: Southern Illinois
I have plenty of money, so I can get what I want. Doesn't mean I will spend $2300 on a set of heads. The motor is going into a street queen pickup. It will get babied. When I want to drive fast, I drive my harley or my mustang. This truck was purchased because I love the trucks and wanted to learn how to work on cars. I would be happy with 375-450hp. Everything I have chosen so far, has been set for a mild build. I dont want anything crazy, just an improvement on the 351m, which wont be hard.
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Depends on the compression ratio you are shooting for and how you are going to go about getting it there.