5r110 supporting facts
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5r110 supporting facts
I have heard that our trucks transmissions are some of the best and even heard they are better than an Allison. So wheres the supporting facts?
I have seached for info to support these theories but have found none. I know they have a life expectency of 250K miles plus, if taken care of.
I would like to know where i can find this supporting evidence.
Thanks guys.
I have seached for info to support these theories but have found none. I know they have a life expectency of 250K miles plus, if taken care of.
I would like to know where i can find this supporting evidence.
Thanks guys.
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In writing, I don't know of any - Maybe Mark will step up here and let you know - he was on Ford's Tranny Team.
But unless people have trashed the 5R110 with a tuner that can not be programmed - like the Bully Dog, they are pretty much bulletproof up to 500HP+. Verified by the many, many users here in FTE.
But unless people have trashed the 5R110 with a tuner that can not be programmed - like the Bully Dog, they are pretty much bulletproof up to 500HP+. Verified by the many, many users here in FTE.
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I have never seen a comparison done by an independent company or a "torture test" for durability.
I have seen many people run their engines up to 450 hp and not have issues (and I watch a dozen forums and have done so over the course of years). I think that is about the limit though. Most folks at 500 hp + also had their transmissions beefed up. That being said, I have seen torqshifts fail due to tunes (as Bud said) and stock ones fail due to poor maintenance, wrong fluid, etc. Additionally, you add horsepower, you will add wear-and-tear ... nothing is free! BTW - I don't have any supporting data for what just said - just my opinion from watching and discussing over this (and other) forum.
Even though Mark didn't bite, what you asked certainly is a question that the smart buyer would be trying to answer since the Allison has benefitted from a TON of hype (deserved or not)!
The best answer (IMO) is to talk to dealership techs that you trust (I know of 3-4 here that would qualify as expert witnesses!).
I have seen many people run their engines up to 450 hp and not have issues (and I watch a dozen forums and have done so over the course of years). I think that is about the limit though. Most folks at 500 hp + also had their transmissions beefed up. That being said, I have seen torqshifts fail due to tunes (as Bud said) and stock ones fail due to poor maintenance, wrong fluid, etc. Additionally, you add horsepower, you will add wear-and-tear ... nothing is free! BTW - I don't have any supporting data for what just said - just my opinion from watching and discussing over this (and other) forum.
Even though Mark didn't bite, what you asked certainly is a question that the smart buyer would be trying to answer since the Allison has benefitted from a TON of hype (deserved or not)!
The best answer (IMO) is to talk to dealership techs that you trust (I know of 3-4 here that would qualify as expert witnesses!).
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I know that Mark is a pretty smart guy. Perhaps he should come to my dealership to help me figure out the cause of a no-crank no-start issue on a 2011 F-450 with low mileage that appears to have been through several hands before getting towed to me. I have had this truck in one of my bays completely gutted for about three weeks now with what appears to be a network short/shutdown that not even our field service rep or higher up can figure out. I would love to see/hear Mark's input on this particular concern. Sorry for the highjack.
But yeah, I pretty much get the impression that Mark is the kind of guy that perceives "mine is bigger/better than yours" type threads are childish, and rightfully so.
But yeah, I pretty much get the impression that Mark is the kind of guy that perceives "mine is bigger/better than yours" type threads are childish, and rightfully so.
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ill just leave it I have only had to replace a few and I work on meat wagons and oil field stuff as a regular diet
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I have very little experience with this type of problem. The one time I can remember working on one was a GM product*. I was able to find the problem by disconnecting each module one at a time until the network came back up. The module had an internal problem that was shutting down the network.
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Well i have no interest in a conversation of whos is better. That little part of my post "i have heard that there better than allisions" wasnt even the important part. All i was asking was for supporting info to learn more about these transmissions. So for you who thought that was what i was trying to do, it is not. Thanks.
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I have never seen a comparison done by an independent company or a "torture test" for durability.
I have seen many people run their engines up to 450 hp and not have issues (and I watch a dozen forums and have done so over the course of years). I think that is about the limit though. Most folks at 500 hp + also had their transmissions beefed up. That being said, I have seen torqshifts fail due to tunes (as Bud said) and stock ones fail due to poor maintenance, wrong fluid, etc. Additionally, you add horsepower, you will add wear-and-tear ... nothing is free! BTW - I don;t have any supporting sata for what just said - just my opinion from watching and discussing over this (and other) forum.
Even though Mark didn't bite, what you asked certainly is a question that the smart buyer would be trying to answer since the Allison has benefitted from a TON of hype (deserved or not)!
The best answer (IMO) is to talk to dealership techs that you trust (I know of 3-4 here that would qualify as expert witnesses!).
I have seen many people run their engines up to 450 hp and not have issues (and I watch a dozen forums and have done so over the course of years). I think that is about the limit though. Most folks at 500 hp + also had their transmissions beefed up. That being said, I have seen torqshifts fail due to tunes (as Bud said) and stock ones fail due to poor maintenance, wrong fluid, etc. Additionally, you add horsepower, you will add wear-and-tear ... nothing is free! BTW - I don;t have any supporting sata for what just said - just my opinion from watching and discussing over this (and other) forum.
Even though Mark didn't bite, what you asked certainly is a question that the smart buyer would be trying to answer since the Allison has benefitted from a TON of hype (deserved or not)!
The best answer (IMO) is to talk to dealership techs that you trust (I know of 3-4 here that would qualify as expert witnesses!).
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