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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
DO NOT GET PATCH PANELS!!!!.

Get a WHOLE bed skin. It is a far superior repair, it will last longer, take lest time and you can practically guarantee it will never rust out again if bonded on.

Unlike a patch panel
I like that idea, Diesel. I just did some searching, and it seems that the bed skin I need is obsolete from Ford and no dealers have any left. I had NumberDummy check it out as well and he came up with nothing. The bed skin I need is the outer driver's side bedside shortbed with single fuel door opening.

Where do you suggest I find a whole bed skin of good quality?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
I like that idea, Diesel. I just did some searching, and it seems that the bed skin I need is obsolete from Ford and no dealers have any left. I had NumberDummy check it out as well and he came up with nothing. The bed skin I need is the outer driver's side bedside shortbed with single fuel door opening.

Where do you suggest I find a whole bed skin of good quality?

You tried Dennis Carpenter? What about BroncoGraveyard.com?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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You tried Dennis Carpenter? What about BroncoGraveyard.com?
YES, I tried both Dennis Carpenter and Bronco Graveyard, and nothing. DC has the other side, though.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Do what i said. Take a dual fill door and fill the extra hole.

You should be happy to even be able to get a short bed skin. The 79 and older crowd have to cut down a long bed one
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Do what i said. Take a dual fill door and fill the extra hole.

You should be happy to even be able to get a short bed skin. The 79 and older crowd have to cut down a long bed one
Upon further research, neither of the short bed panels are available anymore.

How much trouble is it to have a long bed panel cut down to fit? Aren't the bed side pockets in different locations?

Is cutting down a long bed panel a better repair than using a lower patch panel?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
Upon further research, neither of the short bed panels are available anymore.

How much trouble is it to have a long bed panel cut down to fit? Aren't the bed side pockets in different locations?

Is cutting down a long bed panel a better repair than using a lower patch panel?
Short beds have only 4 steak pockets. Long beds have 6.

I do know know how much trouble it would be to cut down a side, but I dont think it would be too bad for a capable body man
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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It looks like I was wrong yet again. NO ONE has any original Ford sheet metal skins left for the driver's (LH) side, in short or long base. Nothing but overseas reproduction garbage that I don't want on my truck. I might as well be whistling Dixie and pissing in the wind.

I don't have any experience in body work or body shops, for that matter. How do the bed skins come off the bed? The rest of my own bed is in great shape, and all the others I have seen in the junkyards around here are either rusty or have some body damage somewhere else. I think I could find a good usable side that I need locally in the junkyard, but I don't know where to begin or have the tools to remove the skin.

If I found a good body repair man, are they usually willing to go through the trouble of actually taking off an original bed skin from a junkyard truck to use on mine?

Here is a photo of the damage. The lower sheet metal to the left of the bumper is actually cracked.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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They're attached via spotwelds...So a good drill/bit and a lot of time is gonna be paramount...lol
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Ok, Just get another bed. You appear to be in a rust free area. I am sure you can find another bed in the 3-500 range
 
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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1) Cut all rusted metal out
2) Thoroughly power-wash, etch, and then prime/seal/encapsulate with Mastercoat
3) Find some sort of simple, low-profile bolt or bond-on arch solution which leaves the inner side open so it can drain and easily be power-washed out any time I wash the truck. This approach could be viable for my truck now, since I'm only going to need to cut out ~8" of the arch peak, so there will be enough structure left to the original sheet metal. Perhaps the factory wheel-arch lip from the '04+ trucks could be an option, but a test-fit would be required.
Here's step 1 & 2 completed (Just showing one side - they're both about the same)...

Note that I didn't have any Mastercoat so I just used Rust-Oleum 7769 after etching. Although I can now get a powerwasher in there to more frequently blow out the evil stuff, I'd have needed to cut out a bunch more good metal in the inner fender to provide access to all of the back side of the outer fender to preventatively treat it. I didn't feel like doing that, so I just tried to brush whatever I could reach in there.

Although I'm still casually looking for a plastic arch solution of some sort, it's not a priority. This is a "beater truck" so cosmetics are secondary. I'm just hoping to slow down the tin worm. And hey, the Rust-Oleum primer is in the same color family at least!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
I have had VERY good luck with Black POR15 as a primer then I top coat(while still tacky) with Valspar tractor black on frames

Diesel Brad I' created that technique 35 years ago when I sold por 15. If you're going to do that use the silver. When this rust sealer was developed by Mobay chemical for bridges it only came in one color silver, period the resin is moisture activated, and blocks moisture from getting to the steel and the aluminum flake is used to cut off the oxygen in layers two coats minimum. It is the industry standard for maximum corrosion resistance and it's called the three coat polyurethane system. Good luck with your project
 
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat Master
Diesel Brad I' created that technique 35 years ago when I sold por 15. If you're going to do that use the silver. When this rust sealer was developed by Mobay chemical for bridges it only came in one color silver, period the resin is moisture activated, and blocks moisture from getting to the steel and the aluminum flake is used to cut off the oxygen in layers two coats minimum. It is the industry standard for maximum corrosion resistance and it's called the three coat polyurethane system. Good luck with your project
Im sure he got it done by now seeing how it was 11yrs ago
 
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat Master
If you're going to do that use the silver. When this rust sealer was developed by Mobay chemical for bridges it only came in one color silver, period the resin is moisture activated, and blocks moisture from getting to the steel and the aluminum flake is used to cut off the oxygen in layers two coats minimum. It is the industry standard for maximum corrosion resistance and it's called the three coat polyurethane system.
The "silver" Pat is referring to is this one.... https://nomorerust.com/store/rust-st...st-sealer.html

I've used it often over the years and it works well. The biggest challenge is keeping the remaining paint from curing after opening. In an ideal world, you use it all over a relatively short period of time (months, not years).

Unfortunately, the Valspar Farm paint has been discontinued. I have no idea why - it was pretty good stuff. Other options exist, and the Mastercoat sealer is the important part.
 
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