Best Turbo?
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From: coquitlam,BC
I know that I'm sort of turbo-stupid, but will ask anyway...
Isn't $1300 quite a bit to spend on something which cannot be rebuilt (at least, from what I've read the 38R is not rebuildable, and I may have even gotten that info wrong)? Or does "not being rebuildable" even matter in terms of how long the thing should last (and I'm sure the life expectancy will vary with use/abuse). Still, though, if you assume that you'll keep it for 10 years, that's still over $10/month for a "throw away" item... and I guess in breaking the cost down that way, it doesn't sound quite so bad, but it's still $1300.
Isn't $1300 quite a bit to spend on something which cannot be rebuilt (at least, from what I've read the 38R is not rebuildable, and I may have even gotten that info wrong)? Or does "not being rebuildable" even matter in terms of how long the thing should last (and I'm sure the life expectancy will vary with use/abuse). Still, though, if you assume that you'll keep it for 10 years, that's still over $10/month for a "throw away" item... and I guess in breaking the cost down that way, it doesn't sound quite so bad, but it's still $1300.
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From: North of Greenville
Thanks, Joe. I guess for me, 130K miles would only translate into about 6-7 years, but since I probably would not push it as hard as you do, that might just translate out to 10-11 years and still be in fine condition. I guess I'll keep it as an option, but will probably end up settling for a rebuilt van turbo for my needs.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
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From: Bend, OR
Thanks, Joe. I guess for me, 130K miles would only translate into about 6-7 years, but since I probably would not push it as hard as you do, that might just translate out to 10-11 years and still be in fine condition. I guess I'll keep it as an option, but will probably end up settling for a rebuilt van turbo for my needs.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
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From: Gary,Indiana
Thanks, Joe. I guess for me, 130K miles would only translate into about 6-7 years, but since I probably would not push it as hard as you do, that might just translate out to 10-11 years and still be in fine condition. I guess I'll keep it as an option, but will probably end up settling for a rebuilt van turbo for my needs.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
From what little I just read about the T4/T4i turbos... that's getting a good bit beyond any league I ever plan to get involved with.
Sorry for taking the discussion off topic.
Now I myself with a E99 I don't have many choices and I have done just about all I can do with the E99 set up. But I too prefer a rebuildable over a non rebuildable turbo. And when the time comes I am going to go to a T4 set up with a H2e to start with. And if I recall correctly a H2e is rebuildable and there are many different turbos and parts for a T4/T4i set up. So there are endless choices once you switch to a T4 set up.
Now I am sorry this was off topic.
Sorry
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Ok I will look into the 38R a bit more.
All I was looking for was people that was running the turbos I had for options. Seems the 38R is the way to go for the better bottom end.
Thanks for the useful information.
As for the not so useful information and sarcasm, I wish I had half the available time on my hands!!
All I was looking for was people that was running the turbos I had for options. Seems the 38R is the way to go for the better bottom end.
Thanks for the useful information.
As for the not so useful information and sarcasm, I wish I had half the available time on my hands!!
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From: North of Greenville
Besides, we're sort of like a family in here and we do poke fun and have a little fun occasionally, and there's really no harm in that.
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You can easily see that there are some really knowledgeable folks in here and they are always happy to help out. Glad you found some useful info, as did I.
I don't want an argument at all, and will not argue the point because it's rather obvious and you seem to be a straight-up kind of guy, but this last comment was really not much different than the ones you were referring to, was it? (Just by including the comment in your post reveals that you do in fact have some of that time on your hands after all).
Besides, we're sort of like a family in here and we do poke fun and have a little fun occasionally, and there's really no harm in that.
I don't want an argument at all, and will not argue the point because it's rather obvious and you seem to be a straight-up kind of guy, but this last comment was really not much different than the ones you were referring to, was it? (Just by including the comment in your post reveals that you do in fact have some of that time on your hands after all).
Besides, we're sort of like a family in here and we do poke fun and have a little fun occasionally, and there's really no harm in that.
Ya I agree. Its just sometimes frustrating the amount of effort some people put into trying to make others look like an idiot.
But again, a lot of useful information. And im now in the works of sourcing the 38R.
Thanks again for the help.
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From: Bend, OR
Went back and read the entire thread... Could you please quote where anyone did any such thing?
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I know bennett11 is new on here. Many of us know each other quite well, and at times can get a little sarcastic with each other and not think anything about it. Sometimes that can come across wrong to a person that doesn't know us. For that, our apologies. But, come around more when you can, and you will learn a lot of stuff about you truck, and you will find that we are a bunch of good guys that mean no harm. Some have been known to visit each other and help with big projects on each others trucks.
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Yup, there is a big city get together coming up soon for the southern region of Houston, Tx. Had you lived here and attended with your new turbo in hand it would be professionally installed and for free, thanks to this site.
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That's where you're wrong, it takes no effort.
Yup, there is a big city get together coming up soon for the southern region of Houston, Tx. Had you lived here and attended with your new turbo in hand it would be professionally installed and for free, thanks to this site.
Yup, there is a big city get together coming up soon for the southern region of Houston, Tx. Had you lived here and attended with your new turbo in hand it would be professionally installed and for free, thanks to this site.
Im a licensed Tech. I do my own work. But never opposed to free labour
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I'm with "PETE" on this one. Not look'n to relocate my house with my truck..(not yet anyhow), but reliablilty, and not say'n that the 38r isn't reliable. I have other ideas in mind or ideas set aside for the if/when, with the $1300 bones, then a turbo.
Anyhow, has anyone thought of the idea of installing bearings that are equiped enough to stand up to the heat of oil andf the rpms the turbos' putting out. I have a connect with bearings, that i dont see a problem with matching them up to the bushings that are in our stockers. I have a set (rebuilt turbo), but its been awhile to remember EXACTLY how the bushings "rest" inside their housing. Do/are they a "float" type of bushing or stationed for the only moving part is the exhaust shaft?
In the meantime, i'll give my buddy the set of bushings to match-up to bearings. Gonna go with the ceramic cages with ceramic ***** for application..(less heat created).
btw...anyone have idea as to the repm output of these stocker turbos?
Anyhow, has anyone thought of the idea of installing bearings that are equiped enough to stand up to the heat of oil andf the rpms the turbos' putting out. I have a connect with bearings, that i dont see a problem with matching them up to the bushings that are in our stockers. I have a set (rebuilt turbo), but its been awhile to remember EXACTLY how the bushings "rest" inside their housing. Do/are they a "float" type of bushing or stationed for the only moving part is the exhaust shaft?
In the meantime, i'll give my buddy the set of bushings to match-up to bearings. Gonna go with the ceramic cages with ceramic ***** for application..(less heat created).
btw...anyone have idea as to the repm output of these stocker turbos?
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Ok I will look into the 38R a bit more.
All I was looking for was people that was running the turbos I had for options. Seems the 38R is the way to go for the better bottom end.
Thanks for the useful information.
As for the posts that were posted strictly in a humorous vein to elicit smiles and maybe a laugh, you guys are funny! Thanks for making me feel welcome and part of the family. I wish I had half the available time on my hands!
All I was looking for was people that was running the turbos I had for options. Seems the 38R is the way to go for the better bottom end.
Thanks for the useful information.
As for the posts that were posted strictly in a humorous vein to elicit smiles and maybe a laugh, you guys are funny! Thanks for making me feel welcome and part of the family. I wish I had half the available time on my hands!
Welcome to FTE! You'll be pulled into the family kicking and screaming if necessary!
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