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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Those codes were in CM.
If you did not clear the old codes they will still be there.
Those codes in CM came about while you were driving it on the road in the last 80 start ups.
To clear the codes ground the STI wire and when the MIL starts to flash on the cluster remove the ground and the codes will be cleared.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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every time the codes i clear them with my reader also my reader ask me if i want to do KOEO,KOER or CM.I also disconect the bat while im working on it.Sorry i did drop the #31 code yesterday after i replaced the EVP..The parts place had to order the EGR so i will not have till tomorrow after work FRI.Thanks ALL
 
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Didn't try cleaning it? 80% of the time, that's all it really needs unless the diaphragm is torn.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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ok put the new egr valve on it !!!it runs better..new codes..KOEO 10 & 34 KOER 12.16,21 and 25 i need to try and see what these are now..
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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By the way the egr valve was Nasty...even had to clean the port in the intake...so far i found that the KOER 25 is the temp sender it works only when it wants..LOL.as for the rest of the KOER codes are from tests that it could not run..Now i need some more advice..Thanks All we are getting closer all the time..
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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1. Well 10 is a space in the codes so you disregard that one.

2. DTC 12 indicates that during Engine Running Self-Test, engine rpm could not be controlled within the Self-Test upper limit band.

Maybe a bad IAC valve or its wiring.

3. DTC 16 indicates that during Engine Running Self-Test, engine rpm was too low to perform the HO2S test.

Maybe a bad IAC valve or its wiring.

4. DTC 21 (ECT) indicates that the corresponding sensor is out of Self-Test range. Correct range of measure is 0.3 to 3.7 volts.

Maybe a cold engine during test.

5. DTC 25 indicates that the Knock Sensor (KS) signal to the PCM was not sensed during the Dynamic Response Test in the Key On Engine Running Self-Test.

Maybe bad wiring or Knock Sensor or operator error (did not floor it at the right time).

6. DTC 34 in Key On Engine Off (KOEO) or Engine Running (KOER) Self-Test indicates that the EGR valve and/or EGR Valve Position (EVP) sensor may not be fully seated in the closed position. The EVP sensor voltage is greater than the closed limit voltage of 0.67 volt. Because of the preload on the installed EVP sensor, it is very difficult to determine whether the EGR valve is seated or the EVP sensor is in contact with the EGR valve stem.

Maybe a bad install of the EVP sensor.
Check it with a voltmeter during the running of the solenoid test.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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THANK YOU Subford..Let me see what i can do with it tomorrow..Ill let ya know
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Subford, i cant find the knock sensor,i dont think there is one on this motor..I did floor it when it said to but the motor did die!!
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Yes it has one but I do not think you can see it unless you take the upper intake off.
It is mounted right behind the upper intake an a little to the passenger side on the part that sticks out for the transmission to bolt on to the motor.

But if the motor quit when you floored it in the test then the KS is more than likely OK.
 
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