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Sep 6, 2012 | 07:20 PM

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Dude, no need to be a JA.

He's just trying to help people out with the resources he has.

Not being a jackass here, but you seem to be sticking your nose into things you know nothing about. So who's the jackass ?

His constant posting of part numbers not casting (or engineering) numbers is a constant source of confusion for those who are looking for specific parts, based on the numbers actually found on the parts, i.e the casting or engineering numbers The two numbers are completely different, you will seldom find a Ford part number on a Ford part. If you run across NOS parts that are in their original packaging, then the Ford part numbers can be useful, otherwise they're useless. His telling jlynn that he does not have a Versailles 302, was purely a dumb thing to do, (irregardless of the fact that these blocks were used in many other applications, which he should know, if he were truely a Ford Parts guy, and not someone just reading from a parts book.), but none the less his block is drilled in the sensor boss, which would make it a block that was actually used in a Versailles. If you have any pertinent info to add, other than criticism of something you know nothing about, please feel free to add to the conversation.

Sep 6, 2012 | 07:28 PM

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I do have a picture, I just dont know how to post a picture/dont know if I can.

Try this link, I just created a photobucket, hopefully it works:
http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/...u/f557463d.jpg

The link works. I see why you have a problem. That's a big hole. You'll need to pull the crank and drill and tap that hole, or find a sensor to plug it. If you drill and tap it, you'll need to countersink the plug then use thread locking compound on it to insure it doesn't work itself loose and damage the crank. You can try tapping it from the top, (don't know if you'd be sucessful though)but you'll need a magnet to remove the thread cuttings from the hole. Seems it may be a biacht to get a tap started with the little room you have to work with. Let us know how it turns out. That block is definately a good candidate for a stroker, so don't give up on it.

Sep 6, 2012 | 08:48 PM

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Couple things:
1. My father in law is a machinist and says he can make a breather tube for it. There is a set screw hole that should be able to be used to hold the tube in place.
2. Where can I find the info on this engine, like the casting number breakdown, etc.? Do you have a resource that you use, or is it in your head from years of experience?

Sep 7, 2012 | 12:53 AM

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baddad457, perhaps I should have kept my comments to myself. Number dummy has help myself and many others over the years, so it bothered me a bit to read your rude comments.

My apologies to jlynn8403 for using his thread to vent.

Sep 7, 2012 | 05:33 AM

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Just going on know-how and years of experience. D = 1970's decade, 8= eighth year of the decade, V is the code letter for a Lincoln Versailles, E - it's an engineering part number. "6015" is the part number for a Ford engine block, the 3A and A3A are suffixes that denote changes made to the original design. I have two of these blocks as I stated before, neither have the boss drilled. One I pulled from a 67 Mustang (obviously wasn't the original block for that car), the other I got with a batch of four 302's in a parts deal. Engineering numbers in no way are an indicator of what vehicle Ford used any part in, they're only a means of assigning development costs to a vehicle line. Although Ford obviously designed these blocks with their unique crankshaft sensor boss feature, this obviously did not limit it's use in any other vehicle line as evidenced by the two blocks I have. I've run across many others on line that also have these blocks

Sep 7, 2012 | 05:36 AM

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So ND's comment telling Jlynn that he doesn't have what he obviously DOES have in his possesion wasn't rude ? This hasn't been the first time he's "stepped in it" here. He's done it many, many times before.

Sep 7, 2012 | 06:02 AM

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Just going on know-how and years of experience.

D = 1970's decade, 8 = eighth year of the decade, V is the code letter for a Lincoln Versailles,

E - it's an ID casting or engineering letter, not a part number.

"6015" is the casting (not a part) number for a Ford engine block (bare block basic Ford part number: 6010).

Looks like your know-how and years of experience didn't include a parts catalog.

V as the casting letter could apply to any Lincoln, for example:

D1VE-6015-AB = block casting number for 1971/73 429, 1971/78 460, some 1979 460's.

How many 1977/78 Versailles came with 460's? None. No 460's in Passenger Cars after 1978.

Specific to Lincoln Versailles have a 4 as the third digit in the ID engineering or part number prefix.

Specific to Continental Mark's have a K as the third digit in the ID engineering or part number prefix.

Specific to Continental Sedans (RWD & FWD) have a 5 as the third digit in the ID engineering or part number prefix.

Specific to Lincoln Town Cars, Town Coupes have a V as the third digit in the ID engineering or part number prefix.

There are no Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just casting or ID engineering numbers (when applicable).

Post 11: I did NOT say the OP did not have a 302. What I said was "Is it a 302?' 'These cars also came with 351W's." What's rude about this statement?

We are both USN historians, but after that, we don't agree on much of anything. Sad.

Sep 7, 2012 | 07:54 PM

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Looks like your know-how and years of experience didn't include a parts catalog.

V as the casting letter could apply to any Lincoln, for example:

D1VE-6015-AB = block casting number for 1971/73 429, 1971/78 460, some 1979 460's.

Specific to Lincoln Versailles have a 4 as the third digit in the ID engineering or part number prefix.INCORRECT INFO HERE.

There are no Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just casting or ID engineering numbers (when applicable).

Post 11: I did NOT say the OP did not have a 302. What I said was "Is it a 302?' 'These cars also came with 351W's." What's rude about this statement?

You're stepping in it again. How many 1978 Lincolns were engined with a 302 ?

Answer: Only the Versailles. And as for your comment about Ford parts NEVER having part NUMBERS on the part ? I'm sitting here holding a 1963-64 A/C compressor bracket that has BOTH the part number AND the engineering numbers on it. So once again, you're wrong. Stick to reading your parts books. I have no use for them as I have no NOS parts in their original packaging. Even if I did, it's not that hard to figure what vehicle and/or engine they fit. And please, next time you have an arguement to make, try and keep from posting the needless info like you did here, your point will be much more easily made. This method you use in posting all the needless info reminds me of a certain saying: If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with BS. I edited out the needless info.