My first Blackstone
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My first Blackstone
Well, here is my first Blackstone. I have a little fuel dilution, will watch it. I also had gone above 5000, 534 to be exact.
As for wear, it looks good.
I had AR9300 in this oil change. Will not be adding anything in this oil due to the AR9300 is supposed to go 50,000 and more.
AR9300 nano ceramic coating, reduce friction, reduce wear, save energy, extend oil drains, extend engine life, gearboxes, nano technology, friction modifier - Archoil
Oh, the last oil change I had put in the AR2300 cleaner.
AR2300 nano engine cleaner removes all deposits for a more powerful and energy saving engine - Archoil
As for wear, it looks good.
I had AR9300 in this oil change. Will not be adding anything in this oil due to the AR9300 is supposed to go 50,000 and more.
AR9300 nano ceramic coating, reduce friction, reduce wear, save energy, extend oil drains, extend engine life, gearboxes, nano technology, friction modifier - Archoil
Oh, the last oil change I had put in the AR2300 cleaner.
AR2300 nano engine cleaner removes all deposits for a more powerful and energy saving engine - Archoil
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I wonder about the Viscosity???
Bear with me I dont know if I am reading it right
But at 210* for viscosity you had 61.1 and the next collum was should be???66-78
So is the 66-78 when the Oil was NEW
Or is that the range it should be in for the amount of Miles you have on that Oil????
I assume its alittle off in viscosity from being sheared and fuel delution
Bear with me I dont know if I am reading it right
But at 210* for viscosity you had 61.1 and the next collum was should be???66-78
So is the 66-78 when the Oil was NEW
Or is that the range it should be in for the amount of Miles you have on that Oil????
I assume its alittle off in viscosity from being sheared and fuel delution
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I wonder about the Viscosity???
Bear with me I dont know if I am reading it right
But at 210* for viscosity you had 61.1 and the next collum was should be???66-78
So is the 66-78 when the Oil was NEW
Or is that the range it should be in for the amount of Miles you have on that Oil????
I assume its alittle off in viscosity from being sheared and fuel delution
Bear with me I dont know if I am reading it right
But at 210* for viscosity you had 61.1 and the next collum was should be???66-78
So is the 66-78 when the Oil was NEW
Or is that the range it should be in for the amount of Miles you have on that Oil????
I assume its alittle off in viscosity from being sheared and fuel delution
Must be using a 10W30 and it sheared or is diluted to that point. Or is using a 5W40 or 15W40 and it sheared and diluted big time. Could be that AR additive stuff causing the low viscosity issue as well.
From those numbers I wouldn't guess he is running Rotella, the zinc and phosphorous are low. May be Delo LE?
I, for one, am not a fan of Blackstone. I believe, without a doubt, most of their reports are just erroneous and sometimes have got to be made up or pulled from a "stock" report. At one time they were worthwhile, but I think they just got too big and cannot handle the volume.
Oil Analysts Inc is my go to for oil reports. My previous company I sent over 100 reports a month to them and my current company (I work in the Fab shop) but they send about 50-70 a month as well. Very top notch.
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FYI:
SAE 30 weight viscosity range - 56.5 to 68 SUS OR 9.3 to 12.49 cStokes
SAE 40 weight visciosity range - 68 to 82.5 SUS OR 12.5 to 16.29 cStokes
SAE 30 weight viscosity range - 56.5 to 68 SUS OR 9.3 to 12.49 cStokes
SAE 40 weight visciosity range - 68 to 82.5 SUS OR 12.5 to 16.29 cStokes
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The way the viscosity is reported at the bottom this sample was a 5w/15w-40, as they are giving reference to 40 weight.
Wear numbers look good, but if this was a 40 wt. lube this is another example to use a 10w-30 and cut your oil change budget in half. This report resembles mine when I ran 5w-40, the viscosity sheared lower than what does now with 10w-30 which obviously doesn't hurt a thing.
We don't know the additive affected this sample, but why was an additive used?
At your next interval I would send in samples to two different labs for comparision of your fuel dilution, 2% as stated, is borderline. There has been several questionable fuel dilution reports from blackstone.
It may be nothing, or you may have an injector o-ring(s) seeping fuel.
Wear numbers look good, but if this was a 40 wt. lube this is another example to use a 10w-30 and cut your oil change budget in half. This report resembles mine when I ran 5w-40, the viscosity sheared lower than what does now with 10w-30 which obviously doesn't hurt a thing.
We don't know the additive affected this sample, but why was an additive used?
At your next interval I would send in samples to two different labs for comparision of your fuel dilution, 2% as stated, is borderline. There has been several questionable fuel dilution reports from blackstone.
It may be nothing, or you may have an injector o-ring(s) seeping fuel.
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Good morning. Sorry for the lack of more info. My time was short putting this up, and didn't realize it did not show my oil.
Rotella T6 5w-40 is the oil. I did go 5500 on it.
As for the additive, it is Archoil's product. It is a step up from their AR9100.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/
Was I trying to fix something? Nope, just doing some testing.
I may try a different place to have the next one done. Maybe try the local CAT shop.
Rotella T6 5w-40 is the oil. I did go 5500 on it.
As for the additive, it is Archoil's product. It is a step up from their AR9100.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/
Was I trying to fix something? Nope, just doing some testing.
I may try a different place to have the next one done. Maybe try the local CAT shop.
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Good morning. Sorry for the lack of more info. My time was short putting this up, and didn't realize it did not show my oil.
Rotella T6 5w-40 is the oil. I did go 5500 on it.
As for the additive, it is Archoil's product. It is a step up from their AR9100.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/
Was I trying to fix something? Nope, just doing some testing.
I may try a different place to have the next one done. Maybe try the local CAT shop.
Rotella T6 5w-40 is the oil. I did go 5500 on it.
As for the additive, it is Archoil's product. It is a step up from their AR9100.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/
Was I trying to fix something? Nope, just doing some testing.
I may try a different place to have the next one done. Maybe try the local CAT shop.
CAT and Deere are fantastic for reports. Somewhat pricey, but far superior to Blackstone.
Josh
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Thanks for your take on CAT reports.
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I will add CAT has a super fast turnaround, at least in the Northern Colorado market.
The previous company I worked for, we only had around 6 CAT machines and I used CAT for their UOA. The DEERE equipment under warranty I used Deere Oilscan and everything else including the trucks are Oil Analysts Inc. Send a CAT sample in Monday and I would have a report sent back by Friday, by Wednesday if they emailed. O.A.I. was around 2 weeks and Deere was actually hit-n-miss on returns on quickness.
Josh
The previous company I worked for, we only had around 6 CAT machines and I used CAT for their UOA. The DEERE equipment under warranty I used Deere Oilscan and everything else including the trucks are Oil Analysts Inc. Send a CAT sample in Monday and I would have a report sent back by Friday, by Wednesday if they emailed. O.A.I. was around 2 weeks and Deere was actually hit-n-miss on returns on quickness.
Josh
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I will add CAT has a super fast turnaround, at least in the Northern Colorado market.
The previous company I worked for, we only had around 6 CAT machines and I used CAT for their UOA. The DEERE equipment under warranty I used Deere Oilscan and everything else including the trucks are Oil Analysts Inc. Send a CAT sample in Monday and I would have a report sent back by Friday, by Wednesday if they emailed. O.A.I. was around 2 weeks and Deere was actually hit-n-miss on returns on quickness.
Josh
The previous company I worked for, we only had around 6 CAT machines and I used CAT for their UOA. The DEERE equipment under warranty I used Deere Oilscan and everything else including the trucks are Oil Analysts Inc. Send a CAT sample in Monday and I would have a report sent back by Friday, by Wednesday if they emailed. O.A.I. was around 2 weeks and Deere was actually hit-n-miss on returns on quickness.
Josh
Here in Ohio my Deere analysis reports are sent to IL and its generally a two to three day turn-around, e-mail of course.
As far as pricing its still less than thirteen dollars a sample, not including TBN.
Its available but my local dealer doesn't stock the TBN sample bottles, I would like to do one once just to see where it was at since my OCI are at 7,500 mi.
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Here in Ohio my Deere analysis reports are sent to IL and its generally a two to three day turn-around, e-mail of course.
As far as pricing its still less than thirteen dollars a sample, not including TBN.
Its available but my local dealer doesn't stock the TBN sample bottles, I would like to do one once just to see where it was at since my OCI are at 7,500 mi.
As far as pricing its still less than thirteen dollars a sample, not including TBN.
Its available but my local dealer doesn't stock the TBN sample bottles, I would like to do one once just to see where it was at since my OCI are at 7,500 mi.
The cool thing about the CAT samples is they came with the test port attachment so you could take a sample with the engine running.
Later Deere equipment (350 DLC comes to mind) had that provision as well.
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I have relied on Blackstone since I learned about oil analysis on this site. They have been quick with reports and seem to cater to a small guy like me, but for a single non-professional type client, are these other companies a good choice?
Not trying to hijack, but it seems like a logical direction with this post:
Which is a good choice for the everyday guy needing UOA: Oil Analysts, Cat, Deere? Other possibilities?
Thanks,
Dan
Not trying to hijack, but it seems like a logical direction with this post:
Which is a good choice for the everyday guy needing UOA: Oil Analysts, Cat, Deere? Other possibilities?
Thanks,
Dan