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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Another highboy power steering thread..

The garrison unit on my highboy is leaking (surprise, surprise..) and I can't afford to replace it with a rebuilt unit. I have a 78 f150 4x4 parts truck with complete steering set up. I was wondering what it would require to use the 78 4x4 steering box on my 74 highboy? Could I use the 4x4 steering box with 2wd internals and reverse the pitman arm 180*? If I'm thinking correctly, that would get the rotation correct, and I would be able to more-or-less bolt it in where the current box is, without too much modification. If there is a write-up on using a 78/9 f150 4x4 box I would love to read it, but I'm not finding any threads with specific enough information for me. Thanks for any help.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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The garrison unit on my highboy is leaking (surprise, surprise..) and I can't afford to replace it with a rebuilt unit.
What "rebuilt" unit are you referring to? With Power Assist, the control valve and ram cylinder are separate parts.

The manual steering gearbox is used, as it has nothing to do with Power Assist.

Garrison Power Assist P/S: 1973/75 F100 4WD / 1975 F150 4WD // 1973 F250 4WD / 1974 F250 4WD before serial number T80,001.

Why go thru the intensive labor process of swapping in Ford integral P/S when the Garrison seal kits are available?

D3TZ-3A650-A .. Garrison Power Assist P/S Control Valve Seal Kit / Obsolete

JST AUTOMOTIVE in Lebanon TN has 1 = 615-443-3086.

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has 1 = 606-787-5293.

ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY in Arlington TX has 1 = 817-275-2381.

WILLEY INC. in Ames IA has 1 = 515-233-1913.

LYLE'S FORD in Eagle Grove IA has 1 = 800-397-6319.

CROSSETT FORD in Crossett AR has 3 = 870-364-2162.
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D3TZ-3A764-A .. Garrison Power Assist P/S Ram Cylinder Seal Kit / Obsolete

JST AUTOMOTIVE has 1.

SHOWALTER MOTOR CO. in Vernal UT has 1 = 435-789-3818.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 4 = 800-543-4959.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 6 = 800-476-9653.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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got it all if ya need it ugly. rebuilt cylinder and garrison if ya want it. took it off and did the conversion.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
What "rebuilt" unit are you referring to? With Power Assist, the control valve and ram cylinder are separate parts.

The manual steering gearbox is used, as it has nothing to do with Power Assist.

Garrison Power Assist P/S: 1973/75 F100 4WD / 1975 F150 4WD // 1973 F250 4WD / 1974 F250 4WD before serial number T80,001.

Why go thru the intensive labor process of swapping in Ford integral P/S when the Garrison seal kits are available?

D3TZ-3A650-A .. Garrison Power Assist P/S Control Valve Seal Kit / Obsolete

JST AUTOMOTIVE in Lebanon TN has 1 = 615-443-3086.

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has 1 = 606-787-5293.

ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY in Arlington TX has 1 = 817-275-2381.

WILLEY INC. in Ames IA has 1 = 515-233-1913.

LYLE'S FORD in Eagle Grove IA has 1 = 800-397-6319.

CROSSETT FORD in Crossett AR has 3 = 870-364-2162.
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D3TZ-3A764-A .. Garrison Power Assist P/S Ram Cylinder Seal Kit / Obsolete

JST AUTOMOTIVE has 1.

SHOWALTER MOTOR CO. in Vernal UT has 1 = 435-789-3818.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 4 = 800-543-4959.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 6 = 800-476-9653.
I know they are separate parts, and that it is a manual gear box.. the garrison valve is leaking.. The ram is fine. I want to convert mine to integral power steering, and get away from this stupid power-assist crap. I have the parts to do it, I just need to know which parts to take from the 78. My highboy is within 5 minutes of me, but the 78 parts truck is at our farm about 20 miles away. I could fix what I have, but what guarantees that the ram won't start leaking 20 miles after I fix the valve? I would rather be able to find parts for the darn thing when I need to, AND be able to afford those parts..
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spikinfool05
got it all if ya need it ugly. rebuilt cylinder and garrison if ya want it. took it off and did the conversion.
Tempting offer.. but I think I want to do the conversion, too.
 
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http://www.stangerssite.com/TruckCVparts.html
 
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Did you miss the part where it says "not available at this time"? I have been there multiple times. I do not want to rebuild the power assist system, I want to upgrade it to full integrated power steering. Basically, I want to use what I already have to get power steering in my highboy.
 
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Did you miss the part where it says "not available at this time"?
Looks like he sold out.
 
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i got a couple of the 3/4 ton boxs laying around also. pesonally thats the way to go. you can use a box off a 4x4 chevy to. seen it done also and those trucks are easier to find to rob parts off of.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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See I don't want to track down any more parts. I want to use the power steering system that is on the 78 f150. I already own it, and it won't cost me anything in that regard. I'm a broke college student (huge emphasis on the broke part).
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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doesnt the half ton stuff mount on the outside of the frame? as for the 3/4 ton box always could do some horse tradin.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Yes the f150 box mounts to the outside of the frame. I am going to get it all next to my highboy and take a closer look.. I know it can be done, I know someone that has done it.. I just don't have their phone number so I can't call him up to get his advice. I did talk to him just yesterday actually (sold him a grille) and he said that it was really pretty easy to do. He highly suggested using the 78 steering on my highboy. Going to see if I can't contact him and get his help. Thanks anyways guys.
 
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