any ideas on why my 2005 F350 will not start?? Started holiday on Aug 17/12 got about 2.5 hours away from home the truck just quit, running about 100 km/hr pulling 26 ft trailer, quitely stopped running, pulled to side of road, cranked no start, called tow truck company, 1 hr wait, tried again after 10 min started up normal got about 500 ft down road stalled again, cranked again no start, waited about 10 min again started, made it down road another 500 ft, got towed, tow truck turned corner too sharp, bang smashed hole in front of trailer. I replaced the Ficm the next morning, still no start, never even fires, I did notice rpms go to about 100 when cranking, can hear fuel pump pressuring for a long time, doesn't pressure only for a second or two, like most vehicles, however I took the secondary fuel filter out, noticed the bowl was 1/2 full, had wife crank engine, it slowly filled, up so it has some pressure, but is it enough? Hooked up a code reader it says "0" codes.

Any ideas? I'd like to get on with my vacation before its time to go home or I have to go to the "stealer ship"
Thanks

 

Oh Boy just DONT Use the Stealer Word on here BAD juju

Sounds like a HPO Leak

you need some gauges if you want to Play

 

So the fuel pump pressuring for an extended lenght of time is pointing to a hpo LEAK?

 

the fuel pump will run 30-45seconds when key is turned to on positiopn

then if truck isnt started the fuel pump will stop at that time its Normal

The Reason Im Saying HPO issue is from what it sounds like you let the truck sit a few it would cool down some and then start back up whats a Classic symtom of HPO Problem If HPO dont get over 500-600psi the FICM Wont even turn on to fire injectors

I could be wrong^^^ this is where you need a Gauge we have a great big list of Ford 6.0L Operating Values we can use the gauge to check against spec

Untill we get some numbers going all anyone can do is Guess


I use a ScanGaugeII it will show just about every operating value for the engine the PCM uses to calibrate

SGII is 150.00 or so from autozone or you can get off ScanGauge website

2005 and up have alot of HPO problems to so thats something to consider

we can get you running if you want to do the work but a Gauge is a MUST HAVE

Have you changed fuel filters recently??? that upper fuel bowel should fill Fast or fairly fast

you need to check Fuel Pressure to Sounds like it might be a Fuel problem the truck has no Fuel Press sensor so SGII wont get that you will need a mechanical gauge to check fuel press

 

[QUOTE=BLADE35;12184097]the fuel pump will run 30-45seconds when key is turned to on positiopn

then if truck isnt started the fuel pump will stop at that time its Normal

The Reason Im Saying HPO issue is from what it sounds like you let the truck sit a few it would cool down some and then start back up whats a Classic symtom of HPO Problem If HPO dont get over 500-600psi the FICM Wont even turn on to fire injectors

I could be wrong^^^ this is where you need a Gauge we have a great big list of Ford 6.0L Operating Values we can use the gauge to check against spec

Untill we get some numbers going all anyone can do is Guess


I use a ScanGaugeII it will show just about every operating value for the engine the PCM uses to calibrate

SGII is 150.00 or so from autozone or you can get off ScanGauge website

2005 and up have alot of HPO problems to so thats something to consider

we can get you running if you want to do the work but a Gauge is a MUST HAVE

Have you changed fuel filters recently??? that upper fuel bowel should fill Fast or fairly fast

you need to check Fuel Pressure to Sounds like it might be a Fuel problem the truck has no Fuel Press sensor so SGII wont get that you will need a mechanical gauge to check fuel press[/QUOTE

I changed both the filters end of may/12 so they should be good, today I removed the drain plug from the water separator to see if there was any water in the primary filter/ pump area, found none, I then had a friend turn on the key with out starting, with the plug still removed, took a while to fill up the filter then a small slow amount came from the plug hole, should it be under high pressue thru the drain hole, when I first checked, the upper bowl filled quite slowly even tho it was half full to start. when i did the drain plug check I noticed the pump was quite growley and changed pitch as it came to the end of the cycle, but I guess maybe they are that way normally, in the manual its states the pump whould come on for 2 to 3 seconds at key on, no cranking.,

 

To start, the PCM needs to see rpms over 100.

How can you be sure that the fuel filters are not plugged? You could have recently gotten bad fuel so the "changed in May" information may not guarantee good filters.

IMO the fuel bowl should fill faster than you describe.

 

You also need some minimum voltage IIRC. Will check on that ....

 

Blades35 was right. FYI I just visited your profile page and you wouldn't believe the number of Ford Techs' that passed you up because of your choice of words. Everyone has to make a living! Might want to get a Voodoo doll to remove the juju curse

 

Which choice of words?? First of all I don't beleive in curses, second I've been driving fords for over 45 years, which means I have helped Ford and their employees make a living. So I don't get the hard feelings. its my vaction time why shouldn't i want to get back on the road quickly??

 

Oh is it the Stearler ship comment, well I'll tell you my son in law was badly ripped off by a stearler ship, they charged him for a new rad it broke down again he went to a different dealer ship, they showed him proof that the rad was reapired not new, now thats fraud by the dealer, not me!!

 

X-2 here as well

Dont sound like the fuel pump is pushing enough Fuel

 

Yes but not all dealers are created Equal

theres Good and BAD

that is too bad about the radiator repair deal that kinda stuff does affect matters

 

allow me to share something with you, wilbur.....

two of the strongest supporters of this forum
are both mechanics working for ford dealerships.

they do this for fun, and for free.

so.... now that you have called them thieves
or incompetent, or whatever.... i'm sure they are
composing a helpful message on their sunday evening,
to help you have a nice vacation.

after all, it's really all about you. we get that.

 

is this case it is, now I've also been on here posting about the positive experiences I've had with Ford, so the way I fiqure it I give a balanced opinion, which is good, like the Cold Lake dealership, fantastic service, I think is that ok wilbur??

 

And I didn't call the mechanics thieves, I called some of the dealers thieves, which some are and some aren't, ok wilbur