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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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glow plug swap-tips?

Going to put new motorcraft GPs in today. any tips before I dive in? I sprayed ema few times with seafom deep creep already.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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compressed air to clean the area. use a 1/4 ratchet set to loosen, then use a piece of vacuum hose over the plug to screw it in once snug remove the vacuum hose and tighten it up.
if the insulation on the wire is bad or the connector is bad, you can replace with a crimp connector and use heat shrink tubing over the connector.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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thanks. Should i try tightening them a hair first before loosening?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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I wouldn't. I'd also recommend using a 6 point socket, deep. A 1/4" drive will help make sure you don't go to hard when tightening. Also, a u-joint comes in handy.

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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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also if any get stuck easiest way to safely pull them which may work is go to Napa, etc and get a nut that will fit the GP threads, 10mm I believe, and use a sawz-all to cut the nut in half
loosen gp all the way till its stuck then put one or both sides of the nut around the threads and hold nut together with pliers, etc while using a socket to continue loosening the gp using the nut's threads.
I had 5 stuck due to carbon buildup and used PB Blaster and the nut and they came out easily when they would not come out trying to use just pliers.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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well they came out super easy, no issues. also cleaning the cdr valve in mineral spirits, then will try to blow on it, wow everything is so accesable once the air cleaner housing is removed! Getting her first oil change and new air filter.
ill be using 1/4" drive. How tight should i go? Just nice n snug? also copper antiseize ok to use on threads?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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snug on the glowplugs with a 1/4 inch drive ratchet.
neversieze is ok, but i did not bother with it.the first ones were in my truck for 15 years and close to 350,000 miles, and they came rite out. so i put the new ones in with just a touch of pb blaster on the threads to lube them.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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i would use anti-sieze and just tighten them up good and snug - about as much as would feel right on a standard 3/8" combination wrench
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Anti-seize is fine it will only make it easier next time.

For the CDR, DON"T use compressed air to blow it out, you could rupture the diaphragm. Just swish it around a bunch of times and rinse a few times, then air dry.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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i dont think theyrs anything left in the cdr. I can blow rigjt thru it with my mouth both holes
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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i dont think theyrs anything left in the cdr. I can blow rigjt thru it with my mouth both holes
sounds like it is time for a new one. can only get them from ford dealership. about $80.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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fack, means 100 at least here in canada! hmm need to find an alternate source, maybe napa. the motor sounds alot louder with no air cleaner or cdr valve, but I think my "inkector knock " is louder?, its more pf a BO BO BO BO sound, a harmonic if you eill of the gregregreggreg sound of normal diesel clatter..
 
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Originally Posted by Greg5OH
i dont think theyrs anything left in the cdr. I can blow rigjt thru it with my mouth both holes
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sounds like it is time for a new one. can only get them from ford dealership. about $80.
Whoa! wait a second there....
If you are blowing through the two holes where it connects to the truck, thats normal, you're supposed to be able to.

The proper test is to stick your finger in the hole on the back and rest it on the diaphragm. Then gently blow through the pinhole in the front using your mouth. If you can feel the diaphragm move, then its working.

Normally, the CDR is open so the intake sucks out some of the crankcase gases, just like a PCV valve on a gasser. However, when the throttle increases, and the pressure in the crankcase drops too much (as a negative pressure), the outside air pressure pushes the diaphragm closed. This prevents the engine from sucking too many fumes and consuming all the engine oil in the process. The CDR valve keeps the crankcase pressure at just the right balance (until it clogs up at least...). Its not the best system, but worked enough to keep the emissions people happy at the time.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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Good catch, tecgod13.

A properly functioning CDR valve also helps prevent oil leaks later in life. Just like a PCV valve in a gasser, it creates a depression in the crank case instead of positive pressure. This reduces stress on all of the gaskets from the oil pan to the valve covers and valley pan, so its not just for emissions.

Unless oil consumption is high, there is no need to replace a CDR. And even then there are many other things that can cause high oil consumption so do some checking before replacing that expensive 'tuna can'.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 01:39 AM
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I did as you said and blew thru the pinhole. valve works, i can feel it moving. should be ok then? Im wondering where the heck all that oil in the valley pan iscoming from?!

also what is a "normal" crank time for the engine to fire on a day like this? with all new Beru GPs, light turns on for 5-6 seconds, takesagood 2 seconds for everthing to start at once. no sputtering-just 2 seconds fast cranking and BOOM liftoff. Could this mean my compression is down?
 
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