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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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ARP Intake Bolts?

I just ordered some intake bolts for my 79 400 from Summit and are the ARP brand.

And i was wondering why the kit has two longer bolts than the rest?
Its says its for a 351C 351M 400.

In what location do i use the longer bolts, i will be using a Edelbrock 4v intake, I'm not sure how these longer bolts work.
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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Don't know about the bolts but make sure you put them in, in the right order. And use the correct torque.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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The smaller dia bolts go in the center 4 holes. I think those are the other 2 in the center.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Their are only 2 bolts, and i think they are the same diameter ,their just longer.
So how do they go in the center, when there is 4 center bolt holes on my intake?

I'm not exactly sure what they were thinking when they put this kit together.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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On my Windsor I needed two longer bolts for the EGR block off plate.It's about a 1/4 thick.Performer intake.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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What motor do you have?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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I used this bolt set on my 400 with a non-EGR Edelbrock Performer 2171 intake manifold. However, I used the 12-pt heads not the 6-pt ones but I think the general concept is the same. The kit included (8) 3/8-16 x 2 1/4" bolts that bolt into the heads around the perimter, (2) 5/16-18 x 2" bolts that go in two of the four center holes and (2) 5/16-18 x 3 1/4" bolts that didn't work in my application since there was no place for the two longer bolts to work correctly.

When I called ARP to inquire about it, the customer service rep was not sure why those two bolts were longer or what application they were for...lot's of help there. I ended up ordering two more of the shorter bolts directly from ARP to complete the set correctly for my application giving me a total of (4) 5/16-18 x 2" center bolts. The part number for the 12-pt bolt is 3AG2.000-5CL and the cost is $2.40 per bolt so it cost me $4.80 plus shipping which I can't give you a good estimate on because I bought $60.00 worth of fasteners I needed for other projects to make my order worth it and they ended up giving me a discount that was within a few cents to what shipping cost me.
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBeast
I used this bolt set on my 400 with a non-EGR Edelbrock Performer 2171 intake manifold. However, I used the 12-pt heads not the 6-pt ones but I think the general concept is the same. The kit included (8) 3/8-16 x 2 1/4" bolts that bolt into the heads around the perimter, (2) 5/16-18 x 2" bolts that go in two of the four center holes and (2) 5/16-18 x 3 1/4" bolts that didn't work in my application since there was no place for the two longer bolts to work correctly.

When I called ARP to inquire about it, the customer service rep was not sure why those two bolts were longer or what application they were for...lot's of help there. I ended up ordering two more of the shorter bolts directly from ARP to complete the set correctly for my application giving me a total of (4) 5/16-18 x 2" center bolts. The part number for the 12-pt bolt is 3AG2.000-5CL and the cost is $2.40 per bolt so it cost me $4.80 plus shipping which I can't give you a good estimate on because I bought $60.00 worth of fasteners I needed for other projects to make my order worth it and they ended up giving me a discount that was within a few cents to what shipping cost me.
Why in the world would ford use two different size bolts to secure the manifold?that is absolutely stupid.

OK now that you mention it, i didn't notice there was two other bolts that were different diameter and shorter.
So i guess I'll get a hold of ARP and order shorter bolts for the centers.
OrangeBeast thanks for your help, i guess maybe the longer bolts are necessary for the Cleveland motors?.
 
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Yeah they just should of made them all the same.
 
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OK had to order the kit of 5 bolts from summit for $12 + shipping.
I called ARP and they wanted $10 to ship two bolts, so i just went with summit.
The part number is 651-2000.
 
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