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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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As i am in a quandry now that i am havin a hard time finding the fittings that connect the trans lines into the radiator ,a thought occured to me and i am not sure if its good or not. Would there be a bad consequence if i simply elimated the trans fluid from circulating through the radiator?If i bypassed running trans fluid through the radiator would that affect anything such as computer ,engine functions, gauge temp,or engine temp?.the only negative i would think is that i would lose fluid capacity.I wonder if i could rectify that with a bigger trans cooler.I am not an expert, just a guy with a thought. please let me know your ideas Thanks
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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The previous owner of my truck had a similar problem. They installed an aftermarket aluminum radiator and mine looks like the factory trans line fittings and lines installed in it.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 05:53 AM
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I have read in a few different articles that one of the reasons the builders pass the automatic trans fluid thru the radiator is that the transmission fluid works better when it is above 160. Running it thru the radiator makes sure the fluid doesn't get too cool......

*BUT*

..on the flip side, I know our resident retired transmission engineer disagrees with that theory.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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running through the radiator is to cool the fluid, not heat it. that is why it is called a trans cooler.
if you want to eliminate the radiator cooler, you will need to install an aftermarket cooler in front of the radiator. otherwise you will cook your trans within 20 miles or so.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought trans fluid temp should be 160 f and dosent the radiator run at 190-210 f ?2 there already is a trans cooler (stock of course).i understand it's a bit small but I'm sure I can purchase and retrofit a bigger one if necessary .
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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if you run 280 degree trans fluid through 190 degree engine coolant, it will still cool the trans.
that small unit under the radiator is the power steering cooler.
and on some vehicles, there is also a oil cooler.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by joeycyph56
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought trans fluid temp should be 160 f and dosent the radiator run at 190-210 f ?2 there already is a trans cooler (stock of course).i understand it's a bit small but I'm sure I can purchase and retrofit a bigger one if necessary .
Yes it does, at the top of the rad, but once the fluid goes through the rad and gets to the bottom of the rad, the temps are a lot lower.

Always keep the trans lines going through the bottom of the rad.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Why can't there be one single fluid used for everything? Just one single fluid change every couple months. Sounds so nice!
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Tjc my rig came from factory with a separate trans cooler.it goes from trans cooler to the radiator to the filter to the trans.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
Why can't there be one single fluid used for everything? Just one single fluid change every couple months. Sounds so nice!
I'm not so sure about that. Although it would be more convenient, if a hose ruptures, you'd lose everything. Kinda like the serpentine belt. It snaps, no AC, alternator, power steering, no nothing.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joeycyph56
As i am in a quandry now that i am havin a hard time finding the fittings that connect the trans lines into the radiator ,....
Any transmission shop should have a bunch of those fittings in stock....at least they do for my truck. Does your truck have specialty fittings? (I am not very familiar with newer Ford trucks...)

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... Would there be a bad consequence if i simply elimated the trans fluid from circulating through the radiator?If i bypassed running trans fluid through the radiator would that affect anything such as computer ,engine functions, gauge temp,or engine temp?.the only negative i would think is that i would lose fluid capacity.I wonder if i could rectify that with a bigger trans cooler.I am not an expert, just a guy with a thought. please let me know your ideas Thanks
You would lose the cooling effect when in reverse or very slow speeds. The Oil-to-water cooler is very effective under those conditions. My '99 didn't come with an OTW cooler.....neither did my neighbor's 2001 Cummins so they weren't all that common back in the day. I believe Ford began OTW method in their Super Duty trucks in 2000 and Dodge around 2003 (IRRC...). So you can run without it but you'll need to keep an eye on your temps when backing up or towing slowly.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
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if you want to eliminate the radiator cooler, you will need to install an aftermarket cooler in front of the radiator. otherwise you will cook your trans within 20 miles or so.
I don't think that is correct. My '99 only came with the little wimpy 7.3 cooler located between the A/C condenser and intercooler. It took me 138k miles to cook my trans.
 
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