Notices

Flexplate Bolts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 4, 2012 | 06:49 PM
  #1  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Flexplate Bolts

What is the length of the flexplate bolts for a C6 flexplate to a 400 crank?
The bolts are 7/16-20 x ?.

Is there a shim between the flexplate & bolt heads?
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 01:14 AM
  #2  
wyoming4x4's Avatar
wyoming4x4
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 2
From: wyoming
bolt stuff.

don't have a length for you but about 3/4" for sure. i have never had a shim on flexplate. only reason to shim flex plate to crank is starter gear engagement alignment. sometimes to much clearance between torque converter and flex plate and have to shim or add a extra washer between converter to flexplate. If to much clearance between converter to flex plate like 1/4", need about 1/16 for thrust and keep converter pump on flats of converter shaft. if you pull converter to far forward you only have minimal engagement of oil pump in tranny and could round off end of convert at flats. things to consider if interesting installation issue pops up.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 05:20 AM
  #3  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Thanks,
I'm reinstalling my C6 flexplate. I had a TCI conversion kit installed, because I wanted to use a 700R4 OD trans. The trans worked fine, but I chewed up 5 starter drives. The adapter plate in the Krappe TCI conversion kit was not thick enough to support the starter, so I took it out. I'm going to use an E4OD with a Bauman controller. I have an E4OD with a Bauman in my '83 F100 behind a carbed 302. It's just a beater truck, but it shifts like a drag car. I'm anxious to get that kind of shifting behind my EFI 434.

The flexplate bolts from the kit are too long for the C6 flexplate, and I don't know what I did with the original bolts.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 07:22 AM
  #4  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
I think that I found the bolts. They were in a bucket burried about 3 layers deep on my workbench. I think that I have too many projects. Anyway they are 7/16-20 x 3/4", and have a sort of castelated head. There were 6 of them. Now all I need is an E4OD transmission. I'm looking for a core to use for a rebuild. I ought to post on the 429/460 forum.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 06:27 PM
  #5  
wyoming4x4's Avatar
wyoming4x4
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 2
From: wyoming
tranny question?

the 700 what is the gear ratio at 1st? Believe the ford tranny is like 2.84 or 2.76. been awhile since i researched. I have a low gear kit in my c-6 and really like. manual shift valve body kinda harsh at 2nd to 3rd good to go other wise in my application. currently doing a 400 ford zf 5 speed conversion and pretty much finish. another ford guy doing the same and we are both on the similar pages on the correct path to making it work. not to expensive and pretty much anyone can do. catch you later.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 06:45 PM
  #6  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
The 700R4 has a 3:1 first gear ratio. Also in OD the ratio is about 0.7:1. It has a wider ratio than any othe Ford or GM trans.
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:34 PM
  #7  
dimora's Avatar
dimora
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
3/4" if you count the base of the bolt; if not, the threaded part only is about 1/2".

I just went outside and shot a picture for you since mine is apart:



Edit...duh...nevermind...those are torque coverter to flexplate bolts...

Gimme one minute...I'll go check what you are actually asking for, LOL.
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:42 PM
  #8  
dimora's Avatar
dimora
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
If we are being precise...11/16" is the length:

 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 01:23 PM
  #9  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Using the depth gauge on my dial caliper, I get about 0.8" from under the head to the end. I think that there was a shim under the bolts on the head side.
What is important is that they don't bottom out.

Another problem is the block alignment dowels. I had to grind 1/8" off one of those dowels for the GM trans. The dowels are 1/2" diameter x 1" long. I have to find a source for one of those.
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:09 PM
  #10  
85lebaront2's Avatar
85lebaront2
Old School Hot Rodder
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,472
Likes: 11
From: Exmore, VA
Club FTE Silver Member

No shim on any 390, 429 or 460 I've taken apart or worked on.
 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 05:08 AM
  #11  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
I'll check the depth of the bolt holes in the crank, and subtract the thickness of the flexplate to see if those bolts will bottom out.
 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:42 PM
  #12  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
I got a 0.500" diameter x 1.5" long dowel from Fastenal. I went to a local machine shop looking for a 0.500" x 1.00"' dowel. He didn't have one. I showed him the Fastenal dowel and he took it and cut it down no charge. It's now installed into the block, and it sticks out the same as the other.

I checked the depth of the flexplate holes in the crank. They checked out at about 1.0" deep.

I have 5 7/16-20 x 1 1/4" set screws, and I screwed them into 5 of the 6 flexplate holes in the crank. I did this to align the flexplate when I install it. I'll put a bolt into the 6th hole to hold it in place while I remove the set screws one at a time and install the other bolts. I ran one set screw all the way into the hole, and had about 0.30" sticking out. That means the threaded portion of the hole is about 0.95" deep. Since the flexplate is 1/8" thick, a 0.8" long bolt will penetrate the hola about 0.675". So the bolt length is a non-issue.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:53 PM
  #13  
wyoming4x4's Avatar
wyoming4x4
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 2
From: wyoming
tranny stuff!

Originally Posted by danlee
The 700R4 has a 3:1 first gear ratio. Also in OD the ratio is about 0.7:1. It has a wider ratio than any othe Ford or GM trans.
thanks and considered the 700 tranny conversion but zf seems a little simplier but i was wrong. once figured out will post on here what i've done for the next ford guy.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Cjpower9185
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
2
Apr 29, 2017 08:23 AM
chillman88
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Jul 28, 2013 09:15 AM
kupaa
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
Jan 5, 2012 05:24 AM
daddy57
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Jan 28, 2008 08:19 AM
ford390gashog
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
1
Oct 16, 2004 06:55 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE