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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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I was poking around their website and decided to read the warranty info for their engines and saw this little gem:
Voiding your warranty: The following actions will make void any and all PMM Group, LLC
warranties and will absolve PMM Group, LLC of all legal responsibility for your products:
• Modification of PMM Group, LLC parts without written prior consent of PMM Group, LLC.
• Service to parts by an unapproved facility without written prior consent of PMM Group, LLC.
• Partial or complete disassembly of any engine or related product purchased from PMM Group, LLC prior to
warranty approval.
• Use of improper fluids in any of our transmissions or hydraulic systems.
• Breakage due to improper installation or failure to follow PMM Group, LLC instructions.
Posting of inaccurate or defamatory information about PMM Group, LLC on any public forum.
• Abuse of products or operation of products under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance resulting
in product failure.
• The application of more engine horsepower or torque than the equipment is rated for.
NOTE: This is a list of examples and does not constitute a comprehensive list.
Interesting.....

http://performancemachinemfg.com/att...antyPolicy.pdf
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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That's hilarious! Lol
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:32 AM
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I guess a person would want to sign in as a different user. Bummer
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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Or prove that the person that they say is you is really you.

After all No one lies and everything is true on the net.

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You know that Starbucks has already opened the first lunar
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 02:11 AM
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I guess you guys really chapped their rears with that thread earlier this year

funny
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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I guess you guys really chapped their rears with that thread earlier this year

funny

They got butthurt because somebody called them out on a crappy product. Sucks for them.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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The warranty that warranties that there is no warranty...

Brian
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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We should totally bring this thread to their attention. I'd be interested to see if the warranty terms change if they knew the idiocy was wide open

Just based on their responses in the last thread I'd never be inclined to purchase their products. This "Warranty" cements it. Trying to stifle customer opinions of your product is crap
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Is that thread still around? I missed it the first time and can't find it so far.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Sometimes when someone does something like this, they tend to keep things in the past being dug up to their own embarrassment.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-pictures.html


Oops, did I do that?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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I may send them an email abiut that warranty.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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I like this part also:
You have one month from the date of delivery to complete your installation and begin your warranty. Otherwise, your warranty begins one year after the original ship date.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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So to "extend" the warranty you just get the part and wait 11 months to install it?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
Sometimes when someone does something like this, they tend to keep things in the past being dug up to their own embarrassment.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-pictures.html


Oops, did I do that?


You guys have all lost your warranties...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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So, you wait to install it for a few months and "Hope" it lasts until the warranty starts?
 
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