Ball Joints
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: The Great White North!
Really depends.
Get upper and lower, both sides for about 250 or less, plus new seals.
Rent ball joint press--free with deposit + about 8 hrs your time, which will include cleaning and lubing parts as you take them off = knowings things are done right.
Or pay some one at shop rate about 800 to install plus parts.
Get upper and lower, both sides for about 250 or less, plus new seals.
Rent ball joint press--free with deposit + about 8 hrs your time, which will include cleaning and lubing parts as you take them off = knowings things are done right.
Or pay some one at shop rate about 800 to install plus parts.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Sep 2003
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From: Billings, MT
I had a shop do my Excursion last summer cause I was in a pinch, cost me a cool $1100.00.
I did my pickup myself and was on a budget and used O'Reilly brand ball joints (same part # as Moog). Not sure if it was a good move yet or not....
I did my pickup myself and was on a budget and used O'Reilly brand ball joints (same part # as Moog). Not sure if it was a good move yet or not....
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: WARRINGTON, PA
I had moog ones installed in my X about a year and a half ago. cost me almost $1200 including alignment. Well, almost one year to the week, I was changing my tires and notices that my l/s lower was smoked bad. I found that the XRF ball joints WAY CHEAPER and are much better and found out that moog has gone downhill in quality. The moogs were under warranty but, I didnt want to take the chance in another year that they are bad again. Total cost to replace the left side upper and lower was $250. The balljoints were $54 for the 1 upper and 1 lower.I would definately go with them over any moog product again.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: The Great White North!
I used XRF also, and haven't look back. Been about a year now and no issues. Lots of km's since being replaced, and when off road I don't baby things, so I know they are holding up well.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Mount Royal, NJ
XRF all the way. 
I got the kit and did it all. Ball joints, drag link, adjusting sleeves, tie rods.
link to The Tire Club
Just remember to get them moving on the bench with a shot of grease before installing or else they are sticky when new.
I got the kit and did it all. Ball joints, drag link, adjusting sleeves, tie rods.
link to The Tire Club
Just remember to get them moving on the bench with a shot of grease before installing or else they are sticky when new.
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Senior User
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: vermont
I must be looking at the wrong stuff on tireclub.
The Tire Club
The ball joints in this listing are Moog part numbers.
My truck is at a repair place that was going to put on Moog and I told them I'll bring this XRF stuff in and pay more for labor.
He looks it up on tireclub and tells me its the same part number he was going to order for Moog stuff.
And it is: MOOG-K8607T Front Lower Ball Joint Made By MOOG
Is tireclub sending something different than the listing?
UPDATE A FEW MINUTES LATER: Was looking at a generic page for Super Duty. Found the XRF stuff after putting my truck info in the drop down menu.
2nd UPDATE: I take back what I jumped to in my first update.
On the correct XRF part listing it still shows Moog part numbers.
So how is it better buying a Moog part from XRF? Do they do something to these parts?
The Tire Club
The ball joints in this listing are Moog part numbers.
My truck is at a repair place that was going to put on Moog and I told them I'll bring this XRF stuff in and pay more for labor.
He looks it up on tireclub and tells me its the same part number he was going to order for Moog stuff.
And it is: MOOG-K8607T Front Lower Ball Joint Made By MOOG
Is tireclub sending something different than the listing?
UPDATE A FEW MINUTES LATER: Was looking at a generic page for Super Duty. Found the XRF stuff after putting my truck info in the drop down menu.
2nd UPDATE: I take back what I jumped to in my first update.
On the correct XRF part listing it still shows Moog part numbers.
So how is it better buying a Moog part from XRF? Do they do something to these parts?
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Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Semper Fi tell I die!
I had moog ones installed in my X about a year and a half ago. cost me almost $1200 including alignment. Well, almost one year to the week, I was changing my tires and notices that my l/s lower was smoked bad. I found that the XRF ball joints WAY CHEAPER and are much better and found out that moog has gone downhill in quality. The moogs were under warranty but, I didnt want to take the chance in another year that they are bad again. Total cost to replace the left side upper and lower was $250. The balljoints were $54 for the 1 upper and 1 lower.I would definately go with them over any moog product again.
where get xrp?
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: WARRINGTON, PA
B, I called XRF and amazingly there was a dealer about 15 minutes from my house. He had them in stock. Just checked them a couple days ago while checking the brakes. Not even a bit of movement. Still am so glad I went this way.
Oh the company is not in Canada. One site kept me pointing to them but I kept looking and calling until I found the right number.
Oh the company is not in Canada. One site kept me pointing to them but I kept looking and calling until I found the right number.
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,014
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From: Semper Fi tell I die!
B, I called XRF and amazingly there was a dealer about 15 minutes from my house. He had them in stock. Just checked them a couple days ago while checking the brakes. Not even a bit of movement. Still am so glad I went this way.
Oh the company is not in Canada. One site kept me pointing to them but I kept looking and calling until I found the right number.
Oh the company is not in Canada. One site kept me pointing to them but I kept looking and calling until I found the right number.
good idea! i will look into it
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,790
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From: Mount Royal, NJ
I must be looking at the wrong stuff on tireclub.
The Tire Club
The ball joints in this listing are Moog part numbers.
My truck is at a repair place that was going to put on Moog and I told them I'll bring this XRF stuff in and pay more for labor.
He looks it up on tireclub and tells me its the same part number he was going to order for Moog stuff.
And it is: MOOG-K8607T Front Lower Ball Joint Made By MOOG
Is tireclub sending something different than the listing?
UPDATE A FEW MINUTES LATER: Was looking at a generic page for Super Duty. Found the XRF stuff after putting my truck info in the drop down menu.
2nd UPDATE: I take back what I jumped to in my first update.
On the correct XRF part listing it still shows Moog part numbers.
So how is it better buying a Moog part from XRF? Do they do something to these parts?
The Tire Club
The ball joints in this listing are Moog part numbers.
My truck is at a repair place that was going to put on Moog and I told them I'll bring this XRF stuff in and pay more for labor.
He looks it up on tireclub and tells me its the same part number he was going to order for Moog stuff.
And it is: MOOG-K8607T Front Lower Ball Joint Made By MOOG
Is tireclub sending something different than the listing?
UPDATE A FEW MINUTES LATER: Was looking at a generic page for Super Duty. Found the XRF stuff after putting my truck info in the drop down menu.
2nd UPDATE: I take back what I jumped to in my first update.
On the correct XRF part listing it still shows Moog part numbers.
So how is it better buying a Moog part from XRF? Do they do something to these parts?
XRF uses the same part number strings as Moog does, but they are different animals altogether.
Here is the XRF online catalog. Put in your vehicle and you will see the similarities in the numbers.
Select Year
Ingalls uses similar numbers also. Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. Joint
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 219
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From: vermont
XRF uses the same part number strings as Moog does, but they are different animals altogether.
Here is the XRF online catalog. Put in your vehicle and you will see the similarities in the numbers.
Select Year
Ingalls uses similar numbers also. Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. Joint
Here is the XRF online catalog. Put in your vehicle and you will see the similarities in the numbers.
Select Year
Ingalls uses similar numbers also. Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. Joint
I got the shop to order the ball joints from Tireclub this afternoon. Told him lets order them and install and I'll seek explanation here tonight.
I figured there must be a difference from Moog or someone would have figured it out by now.
Gotta admit its pretty nice to have a shop that will order parts you would get at home online and install.
I'll update after install.
Thanks for your time and experience everyone - that's what we're here for
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