86 Electric Fuel Pump Problem
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E5TZ-9H307-F SENDER & PUMP ASSY. (FUEL TANK) Fits 1985/86 F250/350 w/carb'd 460, aft-axle (rear) steel tank
Parts International Farmers Branch Ford Farmers Branch, TX 75234 Tel. 972-241-8730 has 1
Tison Motor Company, Inc. Estill, SC 29918 Tel. 803-625-2551 has 1
Those are the only two OEM units I can find in the free world.
Parts International Farmers Branch Ford Farmers Branch, TX 75234 Tel. 972-241-8730 has 1
Tison Motor Company, Inc. Estill, SC 29918 Tel. 803-625-2551 has 1
Those are the only two OEM units I can find in the free world.
Laughing Gas
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The biggest problem with finding OE parts for "vintage" vehicles is that with Ford's "Big Brother" type inventory control dealerships that have this type of item can .... AND ARE .... penalized if they show it in inventory.
In 2006 when I left the dealership this type of "inventory management" was in full swing and I imagine Ford has it well perfected by now. Earlier this year I went to one of the local dealerships and asked for an FL1HP, they had to order it specifically for me so I got two. If they don't sell a certain part at a certain frequency they can't stock it. Some places hide some of this stuff off the inventory, we did, but then you can't find it either.
It would be interesting to continue to hear from people who are using the Airtex units and how satisfied they are with them. I guess for me, should I need a replacement, it will be an Airtex.
In 2006 when I left the dealership this type of "inventory management" was in full swing and I imagine Ford has it well perfected by now. Earlier this year I went to one of the local dealerships and asked for an FL1HP, they had to order it specifically for me so I got two. If they don't sell a certain part at a certain frequency they can't stock it. Some places hide some of this stuff off the inventory, we did, but then you can't find it either.
It would be interesting to continue to hear from people who are using the Airtex units and how satisfied they are with them. I guess for me, should I need a replacement, it will be an Airtex.
Mountain Pass
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The biggest problem with finding OE parts for "vintage" vehicles is that with Ford's "Big Brother" type inventory control dealerships that have this type of item can .... AND ARE .... penalized if they show it in inventory.
In 2006 when I left the dealership this type of "inventory management" was in full swing and I imagine Ford has it well perfected by now. Earlier this year I went to one of the local dealerships and asked for an FL1HP, they had to order it specifically for me so I got two. If they don't sell a certain part at a certain frequency they can't stock it. Some places hide some of this stuff off the inventory, we did, but then you can't find it either.
It would be interesting to continue to hear from people who are using the Airtex units and how satisfied they are with them. I guess for me, should I need a replacement, it will be an Airtex.
In 2006 when I left the dealership this type of "inventory management" was in full swing and I imagine Ford has it well perfected by now. Earlier this year I went to one of the local dealerships and asked for an FL1HP, they had to order it specifically for me so I got two. If they don't sell a certain part at a certain frequency they can't stock it. Some places hide some of this stuff off the inventory, we did, but then you can't find it either.
It would be interesting to continue to hear from people who are using the Airtex units and how satisfied they are with them. I guess for me, should I need a replacement, it will be an Airtex.
Mountain Pass
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New Airtex pump is in and working. I'm still not a fan of replacing pumps in the tank but at least it's all done. I'll keep everyone posted on how it's going periodically. The old pump was definitely bad, and was locked up and would not spin, you could hear it try but something inside was definitely broken. It really sounded like it was jammed.
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New Airtex pump is in and working. I'm still not a fan of replacing pumps in the tank but at least it's all done. I'll keep everyone posted on how it's going periodically. The old pump was definitely bad, and was locked up and would not spin, you could hear it try but something inside was definitely broken. It really sounded like it was jammed.
Both my trucks have manual pumps.
I am running Airtex on both and haven't had any problems.
I am satisfied with the quality of their manual pumps...
Just my .02 worth....Trav..
Mountain Pass
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Too much effort to switch to a mechanical pump for a truck I drive maybe 1000 miles a year. The electric pump is a 2 hour job now that I know what I'm doing.
Laughing Gas
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Thanks Trav, someone is going to hit this thread looking for that information and appreciate your input. If Airtex makes a good manual it likely makes a pretty good electric one .... maybe. We as consumers don't know until other consumers can relate their experience. In the case of FTE we're all rating suppliers for the benefit of the other members.
Mountain Pass
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Thanks Trav, someone is going to hit this thread looking for that information and appreciate your input. If Airtex makes a good manual it likely makes a pretty good electric one .... maybe. We as consumers don't know until other consumers can relate their experience. In the case of FTE we're all rating suppliers for the benefit of the other members.
I plan on keeping everyone apprised of how things go. I must say the Airtex pump kit was pretty complete with all the right attachments which was nice. I saved the box and receipt and the old carter pump.
I'm tempted to try and take the carter pump apart and see what went wrong, but don't see a good way of doing that. I'm considering writing Carter and complaining loudly about the quality of the pump. It certainly doesn't hurt to make my disapproval of the poor product known.
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86 Electric Fuel Pump Problem
Agreed, it's a good suggestion but I don't believe the timing cover on my 460 engine has a spot for a manual pump and even then I'm not sure the cam for a manual pump exists. If I ever do timing chain or engine work I'll definitely look into setting it up for a manual pump. With a carburetor you don't really need the consistency an electric pump provides as long as the carb bowls stay full.
I plan on keeping everyone apprised of how things go. I must say the Airtex pump kit was pretty complete with all the right attachments which was nice. I saved the box and receipt and the old carter pump.
I'm tempted to try and take the carter pump apart and see what went wrong, but don't see a good way of doing that. I'm considering writing Carter and complaining loudly about the quality of the pump. It certainly doesn't hurt to make my disapproval of the poor product known.
I plan on keeping everyone apprised of how things go. I must say the Airtex pump kit was pretty complete with all the right attachments which was nice. I saved the box and receipt and the old carter pump.
I'm tempted to try and take the carter pump apart and see what went wrong, but don't see a good way of doing that. I'm considering writing Carter and complaining loudly about the quality of the pump. It certainly doesn't hurt to make my disapproval of the poor product known.
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Agreed, it's a good suggestion but I don't believe the timing cover on my 460 engine has a spot for a manual pump and even then I'm not sure the cam for a manual pump exists. If I ever do timing chain or engine work I'll definitely look into setting it up for a manual pump. With a carburetor you don't really need the consistency an electric pump provides as long as the carb bowls stay full.
I plan on keeping everyone apprised of how things go. I must say the Airtex pump kit was pretty complete with all the right attachments which was nice. I saved the box and receipt and the old carter pump.
I'm tempted to try and take the carter pump apart and see what went wrong, but don't see a good way of doing that. I'm considering writing Carter and complaining loudly about the quality of the pump. It certainly doesn't hurt to make my disapproval of the poor product known.
I plan on keeping everyone apprised of how things go. I must say the Airtex pump kit was pretty complete with all the right attachments which was nice. I saved the box and receipt and the old carter pump.
I'm tempted to try and take the carter pump apart and see what went wrong, but don't see a good way of doing that. I'm considering writing Carter and complaining loudly about the quality of the pump. It certainly doesn't hurt to make my disapproval of the poor product known.
Finally had a Carter rep show up at local NAPA, been almost a month and no information, feedback etc from the rep. 
Laughing Gas
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There are other owners who search these threads looking for information related to their individual problems and needs.
YOU aren't interested in the fact that Travis had good luck with the Airtrex manual pumps, and I don't believe he was suggesting that you switch from electrics to a manual set up, but a part of this thread has become reference material related to members experience with different brands of other than OE fuel pumps and their reliability.
It's not just about your situation.
Mountain Pass
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You missed my point entirely, and truckertrav's also.
There are other owners who search these threads looking for information related to their individual problems and needs.
YOU aren't interested in the fact that Travis had good luck with the Airtrex manual pumps, and I don't believe he was suggesting that you switch from electrics to a manual set up, but a part of this thread has become reference material related to members experience with different brands of other than OE fuel pumps and their reliability.
It's not just about your situation.
There are other owners who search these threads looking for information related to their individual problems and needs.
YOU aren't interested in the fact that Travis had good luck with the Airtrex manual pumps, and I don't believe he was suggesting that you switch from electrics to a manual set up, but a part of this thread has become reference material related to members experience with different brands of other than OE fuel pumps and their reliability.
It's not just about your situation.
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