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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
the guys comming in to the industry are sad for the most part. were lucky to find 1 in 200 with talent and want.
stuff has not gotten easer to work on either. its gonna be a down hill run for owners soon enugh.

Most of it I think is just people wanting a job, so they'll do anything even if it's something that they don't have knowledge and/or desire for.

I just think that no matter what industry you are talking about that seems to be a recurring theme going around recently.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zoolman
Please help thank you.
well, we don't know where you live, so if one of us knew
a good shop to recommend, we couldn't.

and some of the most knowledgable posters on here work
for ford dealerships, if i'm not mistaken. just none of them
work at a dealership near me.

my experience with ford dealer service has been halfway
between horrible, and lemon law attorney time. i won't
bother to detail it.

where do you live at? i'm in southern california, car center
of the known universe, and there are TWO diesel repair
places i'd use, and a ton that i wouldn't...

and not every diesel shop is versed on the foibles of the 6.0L.

you can go a LONG way to helping yourself by going and
buying a scanguage II for $160ish.

then, you can post what the gauge tells you here, and you will
get some seriously good information, second to none anywhere.

you really can't own one of these engines without gauges. you
are at the mercy of man, beast, and fate. you have no way to
determine anything, other that by throwing checks at it.

welcome to the forum.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulthrotl
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you can go a LONG way to helping yourself by going and
buying a scanguage II for $160ish.

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Good to see you recomend the SGII as well LOL

Still need to add to my sig like we Talked B4
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
Mark Many dealers force the filter sales as a way to induce income. no different then walmart in this case.
For what's worth, I recommend them if I don't see it being recently replaced in it's maintenance history and/or they really look like they need replaced, at which point I will save the old part(s) to give/show the customer. This way the customer sees I have nothing to hide, and my work bench isn't cluttered with more garbage.
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It kills me to ask this but you did take to a ford dealer and not someplace else right?
If thats the case IMO find a new place.
May I be the second Ford dealer tech to put in my two cents worth here, and tell you to take it somewhere else sooner than later.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Furthermore, if I had to GUESS to what the OP's original problem is, I'll say an STC (that's if it's NOT an '05 Excursion with an '04 engine in it) and/or IPR and it sounds like it's good to go.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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im with mike on this.
imo it sounds like you took your ford to a toyota dealer.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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He may have an 04 engine like mine is, so no stc fittings...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Curt's05
He may have an 04 engine like mine is, so no stc fittings...
m-chan68 stipulated to that:

Originally Posted by m-chan68
Furthermore, if I had to GUESS to what the OP's original problem is, I'll say an STC (that's if it's NOT an '05 Excursion with an '04 engine in it) and/or IPR and it sounds like it's good to go.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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m-chan68 stipulated to that:
You don't miss any of even the smallest details of my posts do you?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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You don't miss any of even the smallest details of my posts do you?
I am annoying like that.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Most of it I think is just people wanting a job, so they'll do anything even if it's something that they don't have knowledge and/or desire for.

I just think that no matter what industry you are talking about that seems to be a recurring theme going around recently.
This is so true. It's a product of the economy.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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This 6 liter engine shure does require a truckload of information to keep her in check!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 01:30 AM
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Not so much different than aircraft.
At-least you can pull over to the side
of the road with a truck.

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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of course a pilot buddy of mine once said there is no such thing as a landing..... it's a controlled crash. It's the out of control crashes to watch out for......


Sorta like us using the brakes is a controlled stop..... us using a tree not so controlled
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
the guys comming in to the industry are sad for the most part. were lucky to find 1 in 200 with talent and want.
it's not a unique situation for the auto industry.

i've been doing what i do for 35 years. about 15 years ago,
the quality of people starting into this changed, not for the
better.

at first, i thought it was just the overall demise of blue collar labor,
but lo and behold, i see people at the executive decision level,
making decisions that defy credibility.

my wife does compensation for a fortune 500 company, and there
is, it appears, a growing shortage of skilled labor, in many areas.

and if you are good at what you do, oftentimes you just go out
on your own and start up a business doing what you know.
then you just have to learn how to run a biz before you go broke.

but a good diesel mechanic, on todays market, is a valuable
skill to have.
 
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