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Good ones, except there were a lot more ships involved on both sides than just Washington and Kirishima. South Dakota and several destroyers were with Washington, and several destroyers and at least one heavy cruiser were with Kirishima.
South Dakota too a good bit of damage to her upper works, and also a 14" hit on her barbette, but never listed or was in danger of sinking. She experienced electrical failure which rendered her blind and unable to fire, while Washington delivered as many as 20 16" shells into Kirishima, which sank later as a result.
9 hits was the accepted number for decades, but recent surveys of the wreck and interviews with survivors have confirmed the higher number.
Not bad shooting for a new ship, at night.
South Dakota too a good bit of damage to her upper works, and also a 14" hit on her barbette, but never listed or was in danger of sinking. She experienced electrical failure which rendered her blind and unable to fire, while Washington delivered as many as 20 16" shells into Kirishima, which sank later as a result.
9 hits was the accepted number for decades, but recent surveys of the wreck and interviews with survivors have confirmed the higher number.
Not bad shooting for a new ship, at night.
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Yes, a lot more ships, but South Dakota was mauled, limped away. Big gun duel occurred Washington vs Kirishima.
From what I've read, this was the last BB vs BB only action that occurred in WWII (and obviously forever).
Surigao Strait involved PT's, DD's, CA's, CL's, OBB's.
As R/Adm Jesse B. Oldendorf's fleet steamed towards Surigao Strait, well known official USN photo was taken from the fantail of USS California, shows USS: Pennsylvania, Colorado, Portland. Louisville and Columbia.
From what I've read, this was the last BB vs BB only action that occurred in WWII (and obviously forever).
Surigao Strait involved PT's, DD's, CA's, CL's, OBB's.
As R/Adm Jesse B. Oldendorf's fleet steamed towards Surigao Strait, well known official USN photo was taken from the fantail of USS California, shows USS: Pennsylvania, Colorado, Portland. Louisville and Columbia.
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When Fuso and then Yamashiro and their accompaning ships entered Surigao Strait, were harried by PT's, DD's, CA's, CL's. Fuso sank, Yamashiro damaged.
Yamashiro continued onwards toward Oldendorf's OBB's, steaming back/forth, crossing Yamashiro's T.
The revenge of the "ghosts" of Pearl Harbor, except Pennsylvania's radar failed, never fired a shot.
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That was because the Captain knew what he was doing. He never sailed his ship in front of another burning ship like the South Dakota did. When she did she was silhouetted for all to see and zero in on. Washington never made that mistake and stayed in the dark. The book on the Washington also mentions that there were a lot of bad feelings between the crews of these two ships after the engagement. South Dakota was nicknamed Shi*ty Dick.
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That was because the Captain knew what he was doing. He never sailed his ship in front of another burning ship like the South Dakota did. When she did she was silhouetted for all to see and zero in on. Washington never made that mistake and stayed in the dark. The book on the Washington also mentions that there were a lot of bad feelings between the crews of these two ships after the engagement. South Dakota was nicknamed Shi*ty Dick.
It was North Carolina that really caught the fleet's eye with regards to AA fire....in their first engagement, BB55 was putting out so much fire that Enterprise radioed her to ask if she was in fact, ON fire.
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Yep, I get what you mean, but there were 4 Japanese cruisers involved in this action, too. SoDak was hit many times by fire from those cruisers. It was never just a BB v BB duel. But at least it was "undamaged BB vs. undamaged BB", unlike at Surigao
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10 or so years ago, the USS Texas was towed to Todd Shipyards, placed in drydock to have rusted out hull plating replaced. I wonder why more of the rusty hull plating wasn't replaced?
2009: Battleship USS Missouri (BB-63), now a museum ship in Pearl Harbor, was placed in a USN drydock to have some of its rusted out hull plating replaced. Seawater was leaking into the bow.
2009: Battleship USS Missouri (BB-63), now a museum ship in Pearl Harbor, was placed in a USN drydock to have some of its rusted out hull plating replaced. Seawater was leaking into the bow.
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The other issue is the slip was dug shallow where the hull amidship is actually sitting on the bottom. But this is old news, they've done reduced the flood rate from 850 gpm to 100 to 150 gph.
The only issue now is allocating the $50,000,000 required for necessary repairs and construction of the dry berth. Won't be any time soon since tpwd has no money since spending it all including the $25,000,000 currently allocated of fighting the forest fires last year.
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Money, just like now its still a money issue. There's $26,000,000 (26 million dollars?) to dry berth but can't be moved without repairs, money that the do have can't be touched for repairs just for construction of dry berth.
The other issue is the slip was dug shallow where the hull amidship is actually sitting on the bottom. But this is old news, they've done reduced the flood rate from 850 gpm to 100 to 150 gph.
The only issue now is allocating the $50,000,000 (50 million dollars?) required for necessary repairs and construction of the dry berth. Won't be any time soon since tpwd has no money since spending it all including the $25,000,000 currently allocated of fighting the forest fires last year.
The other issue is the slip was dug shallow where the hull amidship is actually sitting on the bottom. But this is old news, they've done reduced the flood rate from 850 gpm to 100 to 150 gph.
The only issue now is allocating the $50,000,000 (50 million dollars?) required for necessary repairs and construction of the dry berth. Won't be any time soon since tpwd has no money since spending it all including the $25,000,000 currently allocated of fighting the forest fires last year.
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Nope, that is what it will cost to repair the hull, relocate the ship and construct the dry berth is 50 million. Currently the only have 25 million to build avert berth which isn't enough considering the ship has to be relocated first and can't move without major hull and structural repairs done first.
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Don't know about 50 million, that figure might include some other repairs that don't necessarily require dry docking, but with the pictures I've seen of Texas, she has MAJOR problems, so I could easily see 25 million or more to do it all correctly.
What's ironic is, Texas only cost 5.8 million (plus guns and armor) when built. Wiki says that's 145 million of today's dollars. Battleships are a bargain, compared to today's ships.
Edit: Ah, I see that 50 mil figure includes the new berth.
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