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Old May 30, 2012 | 01:16 AM
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Hey guys, just touching base. Had a real busy day and ended up working late tonight so I wasn't able to get any testing done as I had hoped. I did manage to pick up my SG2 today so my plan is to get that hooked up and going tomorrow evening so I can post some numbers. Stick with me!
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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I have some numbers from my SGII

Well, my FTE friends I finally got my SGII hooked up and my X Guages programmed. Here is what I have. Some things seem off so I am also going to double check the codes I put into my scanner to make sure that isn't causing an issue.


Key On Description Cranking
78 down to 0 ICP 982
0 HPR 11.5
9999 CPM 9999
12.0 VLT 11.0
82 FIA 82
Blank FPR Blank
0.00 GPH 0.63
Blank IGN Blank
0 LOD 99
Blank LP Blank
11.4 MAP 11.4
Blank TPS Blank
80 FWT 80
Blank TFC 0.06
0 FSS 0
192 BAT 171
1848 FPW 1784
12.0 FVP 11.0
Blank SYC Blank
0 Crank Position Sensor 0
48.0 FMP 48.0
12.0 FLP 11.0
14.4 IPR Started at 52.1,
dropped to 34.8

The crank position sensor and syc (ficm sync i believe) are what caught my attention. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help. Let me know if you can't understand this, it looks nice and organized into colums as I type it but gets bunched up in the preview. Tried it twice can't get it to keep the columns.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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Might just have to weed are way threw some codes

Whats going to make it hard is knowing if its a Code problem vs Truck problem

What year was it again??????????????

FSN 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3601 000100010000 FICM Sync (0=No, 1=Yes)

SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3000 000100010000 Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3001 000100010000 Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync

SYC
Camshaft & Crankshaft in s
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

AP% Accelerator Pedal Position
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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I found a different code for SYC on scanguage's website and now it shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking. I'm wondering if it's the crank sensor. Doesn't everything else seem normal now?
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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It's an 04.

What are the other three syc codes your showing? Those aren't on their website.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Javo
I found a different code for SYC on scanguage's website and now it shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking. I'm wondering if it's the crank sensor. Doesn't everything else seem normal now?
koeo will be 0

koer or cranking should be 1
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Javo


Key On Description Cranking
78 down to 0 ICP 982


192 BAT 171
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So ICP held at 982 ICP psi during the crank???

And this second one what is it????????????????
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Now ...........

Javo - did you do the electrical tests on the CMP and CKP? Your readings really do look to me like it could be the CKP holding you out.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
So ICP held at 982 ICP psi during the crank???

And this second one what is it????????????????
I believe it dropped a little while cranking. I will go verify.

I got BAT off the list you sent me, it says it's battery voltage but those numbers don't jive.

So I now have 4 SYC codes in my reader....

SYC - 6.0 code from Scan Guage (this matches the first of four codes in your post)
Shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking

SY1 - is the last code (four of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking

SY2 - this is the second (two of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 0 while cranking

SY3 - this is the third (three of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 0 while cranking

Lot of detail there but I hope it helps. I'll go out now and check the ICP and post.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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Okay, ICP....
I get 0 with key on and 976 while cranking. Took a second to register, I cranked for about 6 seconds and it stayed there. Actually went to 979 before I quit cranking.
 

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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Javo
I believe it dropped a little while cranking. I will go verify.

I got BAT off the list you sent me, it says it's battery voltage but those numbers don't jive.

So I now have 4 SYC codes in my reader....

SYC - 6.0 code from Scan Guage (this matches the first of four codes in your post)
Shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking

SY1 - is the last code (four of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking

SY2 - this is the second (two of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 0 while cranking

SY3 - this is the third (three of four) in your post
Shows 0 with key on and 0 while cranking

Lot of detail there but I hope it helps. I'll go out now and check the ICP and post.
I'm confused.
If the FICM is in sync the pcm should be in sync since this is where it gets it from.

Why are there 4 sync codes? Shouldn't there just be 2? 1 for pcm 1 for ficm?
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic

Now ...........

Javo - did you do the electrical tests on the CMP and CKP? Your readings really do look to me like it could be the CKP holding you out.
Hi Bismic! Sorry I didn't see your post before my last response. I have not had the chance to do electrical tests other than my Scan Guage. I had to work late last night and wasn't able to start on this until late today so I thought my time may have been best served to get the readings from my Scan Guage and post them. Unfortunately, it's getting dark here in Denver so I may wait to do that tomorrow in the daylight where I can see and get to everything. Although it looks like you may have been right all along!

Two side notes...

1. Glad I bought this Scan Guage, this thing is really helpful in getting information. At the very least I will never again have to move my degas bottle to get a ficm reading! Worth the price for that alone.

2. If someone else has a Scan Guage that monitors the crankcase position sensor correctly, could you possibly give me the programming code so I can check it against the one I have? My current code is showing 0 while cranking and I would like to double verify. No offense Blade, just wanna double check.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by quackrz
I'm confused.
If the FICM is in sync the pcm should be in sync since this is where it gets it from.

Why are there 4 sync codes? Shouldn't there just be 2? 1 for pcm 1 for ficm?
Blade provided me with four SYC codes (if I understand correctly) in his earlier post. I programmed all four and then tested so I could provide some feedback.

Does that help at all?
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Javo
Blade provided me with four SYC codes (if I understand correctly) in his earlier post. I programmed all four and then tested so I could provide some feedback.

Does that help at all?
No... Ha.

I was actually asking Blade or someone else to explain what those 4 sync codes are.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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According to Scan Guage's website the first of the four codes I listed (which matches their code) is...
"FICM signals for Camshaft and Crankshaft positions are in sync"

So if my crankshaft sensor was out how could this be in sync since my reader shows 0 with key on and 1 while cranking? This is why I think I may have the wrong code for this sensor.
 
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