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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Question Lift vs. trailer

So my truck is lifted a bit and on bigger tires. The bed rails sit exactly 5' tall.

Which would be a better trailer selection? 5th wheel or Gooseneck?

I'm looking at transfering back to the Mainland and getting a travel trailer. I despise bumper pulls and want a bed pull.


That being said, I'm willing to remove my lift and go back to stock height with a leveling kit up front to keep the 35's. I'm not keen on lifting a trailer to make it fit. That leads me to think a gooseneck would be a better choice. I'm concerned about 5th wheel approach angles and tearing apart the bed rails/truck bed in uneven ground.


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Old May 28, 2012 | 03:55 AM
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Hey shipmate- you're only option is a 5th wheel, nobody makes a mass production gooseneck that I've ever heard of. And with that, you 2 options- lower the truck or raise the trailer. With 35's and the clearance they need you still might have to flip the axles on whatever you buy. Good luck
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo75
Hey shipmate- you're only option is a 5th wheel, nobody makes a mass production gooseneck that I've ever heard of. And with that, you 2 options- lower the truck or raise the trailer. With 35's and the clearance they need you still might have to flip the axles on whatever you buy. Good luck
My brother in law has a gooseneck trailer. He had to special order it. It turned out pretty good. He did it because of his work trailers were all goose neck, and he pulls his toy hauler with his Harley to some work sites.

So if you want a gooseneck, look at ordering it.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo75
Hey shipmate- you're only option is a 5th wheel, nobody makes a mass production gooseneck that I've ever heard of. And with that, you 2 options- lower the truck or raise the trailer. With 35's and the clearance they need you still might have to flip the axles on whatever you buy. Good luck
crap...not too keen on lifting a trailer...they're already tall enough to warrant concerns about entry ways
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My brother in law has a gooseneck trailer. He had to special order it. It turned out pretty good. He did it because of his work trailers were all goose neck, and he pulls his toy hauler with his Harley to some work sites.

So if you want a gooseneck, look at ordering it.
thx for the info. I'm looking at getting a used trailer first to warm up to things. If the family (6 of us) are into it, then perhaps moving to a nicer/newer setup. I'll definately check them out though. For some reason I just figured a gooseneck would be just as common as 5th wheel
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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put 35s on the trailer



i would just get a regular trailer. 5th wheels are more of a hassle, unless you need the weight.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Even if you could find a gooseneck trailer, they not as popular as fifth wheels. If you're looking to upgrade in the future, your options will be limited. I vote for removing your lift. You may also need to put airbags in the rear since you won't have the factory rake to offset the pin weight.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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random question...how high are the bedrails for you guys with factory suspension and tires?
Originally Posted by tom18287
i would just get a regular trailer. 5th wheels are more of a hassle, unless you need the weight.
I've got 4 kids...plus the wife/me and that's gonna be a bigger trailer. I'm thinking at least a 30'
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Even if you could find a gooseneck trailer, they not as popular as fifth wheels. If you're looking to upgrade in the future, your options will be limited. I vote for removing your lift. You may also need to put airbags in the rear since you won't have the factory rake to offset the pin weight.
I've been 'net shopping the various styles. I'm pretty much resigned to yanking the lift kit when it's go time.

I do have the overload leafs already. but I'd likely run airbags anyways just for peace of mind and height adjustment if needed
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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I don't own my own trailer, but I transport trailers on the weekend, as well as cars on my 48' 5'er car trailer. Also have time on tractor trailers- basically saying I got lots of towing time. I hate towing bumper hitch trailers- yeah they work, but when you need the ultimate in manueverability, a 5th wheel (or gooseneck) will give you that extra several degrees of radius to make a turn easier. Plus you can get a bigger trailer than the 10k frame hitch will allow, and 5th wheels are way more stable and comfortable on bumpy / windy roads.
 
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Our truck is 53" from the ground to the top of the box at the back unloaded, that gives my 6" to 7" bed rail clearance when hooked up. If mine was 60" there would be no clearance at all. The trailer is level when hooked up and 50 to 60 psi in the bags. If I let the truck go down on the over loads it would be squatting in the rear instead of sitting level with 3400 on the pin.

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Old May 30, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Hey Denny what kinda mileage ya get towing your trailer with the V10?
 
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Originally Posted by mongo75
Hey Denny what kinda mileage ya get towing your trailer with the V10?
First the only mod is a cat back Banks system, we get 8.5 to 9 pulling a 16K trailer and a gross weight averaging 24K. We only run between 55 an 62 and don't get in a big hurry going up hills It's one big advantage of being retired and in no big hurry . Before we retired 6 years ago we would run way above that and only get 8.

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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Look at Darren's pic in post 786 here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ppened-27.html

his truck is lifted and makes for an interesting tow !
 
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
First the only mod is a cat back Banks system, we get 8.5 to 9 pulling a 16K trailer and a gross weight averaging 24K. We only run between 55 an 62 and don't get in a big hurry going up hills It's one big advantage of being retired and in no big hurry . Before we retired 6 years ago we would run way above that and only get 8.

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Are you kidding me? That's what I get with my 9,000lb travel trailer hauling at 60mph. Nuts…but I guess I don't have to worry about upgrading my truck if I upgrade my trailer!
 
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Originally Posted by onug
Are you kidding me? That's what I get with my 9,000lb travel trailer hauling at 60mph. Nuts…but I guess I don't have to worry about upgrading my truck if I upgrade my trailer!
Towing a trailer isn't just weight it's also the size of the hole you are punching in the air. With a TT you are doing it twice and with a 5ver you are only doing it once but it's a bigger hole. Also when we went form are all aluminum sided 5th wheel to one the was longer and 4K heavier it was easier to pull because of the fiberglass front cap and smooth sides. But when we get in the mountains pulling the train then you can really tell the added weight going up but going down it gives you a harder push

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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
Towing a trailer isn't just weight it's also the size of the hole you are punching in the air. With a TT you are doing it twice and with a 5ver you are only doing it once but it's a bigger hole.Denny
Not necessarily.

Depends on the aerodynamics of your truck.
It will be reduced or eliminated depending on your topper and front cap
on the trailer.

Regards,
Steve.
 
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