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Old May 12, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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76Supercab,

The simple answer to your question is that bio diesel/ethanol, are currently produced at an energy deficit, ie, more energy (fuel, fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, machinery, actual production of the fuel itself) goes into the production of the biomass than the biomass can produce.

The only reason the biofuels idea is relevent is because the biomass used in it's production is currently waste or a byproduct. I agree that finding a method to use this otherwise waste material definately has merit. However, growing crops (even hemp) strictly for the production of biofuels is not an environmentally or economically sound idea.

Biofuels are somewhat self defeating. They are marginally economic to produce with the current price of biomass - ie FREE(only subisidies make them at all competetive). Like you stated, if this biomass begins to have a value, not only will it affect those producing it, for the good and the bad, but it will seriously strain the economic aspects of biofuel production.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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That is sort of what I expect but I want to find out for sure. I have a pretty good idea of what an acre of land will produce in the way of waste material for corn/milo and soybeans in tons. I haven't been able to find any info on the yeild per ton for biomass diesel. BDV if you know of a good site with that info point me to it.
 
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