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Old May 18, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko

PS Even if you DO drive many short trips, one long and hot trip per week will go a long way towards absolving your engine of the short-trip sins.
the question is how hot and how far. Under 100 miles or more like 200?
I'm not entirely expert on the issue, but I'd say at least an hour of uninterrupted driving at freeway speeds, in each direction.

Combined, at some point, with a sustained and heavy acceleration or two (or five) to reach those speeds...

The engine needs to WORK, not just loaf along.

Doing this does several things:

1) gets the entire engine and all fluids up to operating temperature
2) engine oil up to operating temp allows combustion byproducts to burn off and/or evaporate
3) turbo gets heat soaked to burn out carbon deposits
4) catalytic converter gets heat soaked to properly burn off carbon deposits and "freshen" itself
5) transmission temp gets hot enough to open filter circuit, thus allowing fluid to "fine filter" as well as drive off any latent condensation in the fluid

Several members have reported that an "Italian Tuneup" has broken free a partially seized turbo.

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Old May 18, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankenbiker
I'm not entirely expert on the issue, but I'd say at least an hour of uninterrupted driving at freeway speeds, in each direction.

Combined, at some point, with a sustained and heavy acceleration or two (or five) to reach those speeds...

The engine needs to WORK, not just loaf along.

Doing this does several things:

1) gets the entire engine and all fluids up to operating temperature
2) engine oil up to operating temp allows combustion byproducts to burn off and/or evaporate
3) turbo gets heat soaked to burn out carbon deposits
4) catalytic converter gets heat soaked to properly burn off carbon deposits and "freshen" itself
5) transmission temp gets hot enough to open filter circuit, thus allowing fluid to "fine filter" as well as drive off any latent condensation in the fluid

Several members have reported that an "Italian Tuneup" has broken free a partially seized turbo.

-blaine
I do like the "Italian Tuneup"...
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankenbiker
I'm not entirely expert on the issue, but I'd say at least an hour of uninterrupted driving at freeway speeds, in each direction.

It would actually depend. Ambient temp, what tune you are running, hauling anything, how fast you are driving. All that plays a part in determining how quickly you get to operating temp.

Best way to know for sure is gauges. But also bare in mind tthat your normal operating temp might be different if you have modded your vehicle.

Just FYI, I'm talking about you in the general sense, not specifically to Frakenbiker or any one member in particular. When I post on this small devices, I have to take shortcuts in my typing.
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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I have been following the conversation on the 6.0L. People have talked about the 03-04 having bugs, and the 06-07 seem to have less problems. But what about the 05's. How do they compare, are they more closely related to the 03-04's or 06-07's. I have been looking for a diesel to replace my 2000 F250 5.4L. I have been looking at 7.3L, but came across a 05 with the 6.0L with 165,000 miles. Is this a truck with proper care, can I put on a 150K miles over 10 years?
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FM FordFan
I have been following the conversation on the 6.0L. People have talked about the 03-04 having bugs, and the 06-07 seem to have less problems. But what about the 05's. How do they compare, are they more closely related to the 03-04's or 06-07's. I have been looking for a diesel to replace my 2000 F250 5.4L. I have been looking at 7.3L, but came across a 05 with the 6.0L with 165,000 miles. Is this a truck with proper care, can I put on a 150K miles over 10 years?
Mine was built in 05 even though it's listed as an 06. When it was stock, it gave me 70k miles trouble free. I got the mod bug, so not a whole lot is left stock, some systems that people say to get rid of are still there and working fine (even though I put an addition 40% more stress on the parts then those with stock trucks saying those parts need to be deleted). I don't know if I have the STC fitting that is been known to be an issue or not. Nothing has popped up on my truck yet, that would be the one thing that I would be more concerned about with an 05.
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Mine was built in 05 even though it's listed as an 06. When it was stock, it gave me 70k miles trouble free. I got the mod bug, so not a whole lot is left stock, some systems that people say to get rid of are still there and working fine (even though I put an addition 40% more stress on the parts then those with stock trucks saying those parts need to be deleted). I don't know if I have the STC fitting that is been known to be an issue or not. Nothing has popped up on my truck yet, that would be the one thing that I would be more concerned about with an 05.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FM FordFan
I have been following the conversation on the 6.0L. People have talked about the 03-04 having bugs, and the 06-07 seem to have less problems. But what about the 05's. How do they compare, are they more closely related to the 03-04's or 06-07's. I have been looking for a diesel to replace my 2000 F250 5.4L. I have been looking at 7.3L, but came across a 05 with the 6.0L with 165,000 miles. Is this a truck with proper care, can I put on a 150K miles over 10 years?
The 05's are closer to the 06-07's
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Yes, you do.
I was afraid so, but I just count that among my other statistics of one that I have that constantly defy the odds of the troublesome 6.0.
 
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I would say if you get a clean OASYS and your gauges tell you what you need to know (having a clogged oil cooler or low FICM voltage or something is not a death sentence, it just tells you you need to take care of it NOW) then any year is as good as any other. It's not like there are no more problems once you reach 2007- they are all basically the same engine, each year just has a different batch of things that need to be addressed. The 2005 I bought last year has the STC fitting, and I've had absolutely zero indication that it's got any problems with HPOP. But, that's the point, is that that thing may never go but if it does it leaves you stranded. So when you're in there taking care of the oil cooler and EGR, it's an easy extra step to take that STC fitting out and replace it with the improved fitting. Not a reason to avoid the truck.

'05 is the first year with the front coil springs for improved turn radius.
 
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